A Mapmaker's Dream: The Meditations of Fra Mauro, Cartographer to the Court of Venice
Average customer rating: 3 out of 5 stars
  • Merely clever, not engaging, because inauthentic vehicle
  • Personal Fave But With a Big Flaw
  • Boring and Pretentious
  • Read on!
  • rich stew of ideas
A Mapmaker's Dream: The Meditations of Fra Mauro, Cartographer to the Court of Venice
James Cowan
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James Cowan's fantasy of a Venetian cartographer owes a large and obvious debt to Borges, with its speculations on geography as a construct of the human consciousness, its erudite references, and its tales of explorations into an imaginary world. Through the purported journals of Fra Mauro, a cloistered monk who actually lived during the 15th century and who, in Cowan's novel, has resolved to create a map of the world without ever leaving his cell, we learn of a race of men with one foot the size of an umbrella, about the Vatican emissary to the Mongol court,and about the devil worshippers of the land called Mosul. Over the course of the book, Fra Mauro creates a world of his own, composed less of geographical knowledge than of meditation, folklore, and books.

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James Cowan's fantasy of a Venetian cartographer owes a large and obvious debt to Borges, with its speculations on geography as a construct of the human consciousness, its erudite references, and its tales of explorations into an imaginary world. Through the purported journals of Fra Mauro, a cloistered monk who actually lived during the 15th century and who, in Cowan's novel, has resolved to create a map of the world without ever leaving his cell, we learn of a race of men with one foot the size of an umbrella, about the Vatican emissary to the Mongol court,and about the devil worshippers of the land called Mosul. Over the course of the book, Fra Mauro creates a world of his own, composed less of geographical knowledge than of meditation, folklore, and books.

Customer Reviews:

1 out of 5 stars Merely clever, not engaging, because inauthentic vehicle.......2003-01-07

Cowan is a talented wordsmith and has fascinating trivia to explore. Having chosen a Renaissance monk as his voice, however, he should have made some effort to identify, authenticate, justify that personality and worldview. The reader needn't be an antiquarian nor a theologian to be irritated by this supposedly dedicated Christian scholar being so entirely self-referencing and self-absorbed. So much Asian mysticism and 20th century psychobabble are anachronistic. This author needs a good editor and a better thread or theme on which to exercise his talent.

3 out of 5 stars Personal Fave But With a Big Flaw.......2002-10-08

is exceedingly difficult to review since my feelings toward it are so ambivalent. If I were to judge a book by its cover I'd give this all-time-favorite status.
Design and construction (in the cloth edition) are beautifully rendered, with a brevity and diminutive size that adds to the appeal. The way it deals with obscure esoteric historical matters increases irresistibility for someone with my interests. I'd love to give it "must read" approbation, but unfortunately things aren't so simple.

There are two reasons why. First the excusable one: it doesn't play out like a traditional novel; there isn't much of a plot to speak of. But this is not an accident I believe, given
the Nominalist philosophical view implied by the book's narrative voice, which forms the
second flaw. And it is not excusable. Nominalism holds that reality is "all in your mind."
A can be B can be C, etc. Nothing is really what you think it is. Most people know a falsehood

when they see it, and this one is as destructive as they come! It is however the explicit philosophical view of many 20th century intellectuals, most notably Umberto Eco, as illustrated in the protagonist of his famous novel, .

What becomes starkly clear
is the reason WHY the book is no traditional novel: for in a situation where nothing can be defined for certain, a novel (or anything) can be whatever you want it to be........

It is thus with considerable trepidation that I observe , a work of salient charm, but false underlying premises.

1 out of 5 stars Boring and Pretentious.......2002-03-16

Not my cup of tea. I really REALLY wanted to like it, but I could not. Too slow, too earnest for its own good. Cowan writes nice words but strung together, they create a series of pieces that seem to make the author appear to jump up and down saying "look at me! Look how smart I am!"
Sorry, just didn't take.

2 out of 5 stars Read on!.......2002-01-08

For a project in my world history class, we had to read a historical novel, then, write an essay about the plot, the story, etc.
I chose this book because it sounded interesting, and it was only 150 pages.
From the start, it was hard to understand, not to interesting, and boring. So i looked around the internet to find reviews and summaries about it, and after reading many, i found the book to be quite interesting, and i started reading it.
Later, i find out the book is worth reading because it gets better as you read on if you really think about what's going on.

5 out of 5 stars rich stew of ideas.......2001-11-04

Inevitably a book that confirms or conforms to our own conceits has a particular appeal. So it is entirely possible that other readers will not enjoy this slender but potent novel of ideas as much as I did. But, because I agree with so many of the concepts contained within and with the central premise on which it is based, I really thought it was extraordinary.

The narrative structure of the book is deceptively simple. James Cowan claims to have found the journal of the 15th century Venetian cartographer Fra Mauro. Within the pages of the journal, Mauro describes his work on what he hopes will be his masterpiece, a great mappa mundi (world map) that will contain everything that he knows about the geography of the world (the map pictured above is actually not the map described in the book, but instead the only known surviving Mauro map). The irony, of course, is that Mauro lived in the monastery of San Michele di Murano and was not himself a traveler or explorer. His definitive map was to be based on knowledge acquired by and from others. The journal describes visits he received from individuals who had actually traveled abroad and were interested in sharing their knowledge with him.

Now I spend a lot of time in these reviews unabashedly arguing for the supremacy of Western Civilization--its Culture: music, literature and the plastic arts; Political and Social Institutions; Economic System; Scientific advances; etc.. And it seems to me that there is one great achievement that is really central to all of the achievements or, at the very least, has facilitated all of them; that is the development of means to systematize, retrieve and pass on knowledge. It should be obvious on its face that no culture that failed to produce a written language can lay any claim to even being a true Civilization. Even those which developed languages, but failed to develop knowledge or failed to accumulate and preserve knowledge, can hardly claim to be great Civilizations. And those which made developed some capacity to further knowledge and to safeguard the results for the use of subsequent generations, but failed to disseminate such knowledge widely, must pale by comparison too. For what we in the West achieved was a set of systems for accumulating knowledge, experimenting in order to increase that knowledge, storing and sharing that knowledge widely and a series of religious and political theories to induce citizens to strive to further all of these achievements.

So it is that an early map maker like Fra Mauro, cloistered within his cell, can take on such a heroic aura and his story can be so exciting. And here are some of the passages where Cowan develops some of these same ideas:

-----

Mauro is visited by an elderly Jew of Rhodes, who tells him:
It is in us all, this desire to experience the kinship that exists between our innermost being and the
will that created such a kinship in the first place. As such a desire is realized, we become
preoccupied with strange and uncanny aspects in Nature herself. We are almost tempted to regard
them as our own moods, our own creations. For my part, I know that the boundary between
myself and Nature sometimes wavers and melts away, so that I can no longer be sure whether what
I see with my own eyes springs from outward or inner impressions. An experience such as this is
one sure way of discovering how creative we are, and how deeply our soil participates in the
perpetual creation of the world. The same invisible divinity is at work in us as it is in Nature. If the
outside world were perchance to perish, I know that any one of us would be capable of rebuilding
it. I say these things because I believe that mountain and stream, leaf and tree, root and flower,
everything that has ever been formed in Nature lies preformed within us and springs from the soul,
whose essence is eternity. Of course, this essence is beyond all our conceivable knowledge, but we
can feel it nevertheless.

------

And just in passing you come across such gem like sentences and ideas as this one: "Quitting the place that we love means that we are condemned to inhabit our loss forever."

I urge everyone to read and enjoy this book. The journal entry style makes it particularly susceptible to reading in separate nightly installments. It is a book that you can easily pick up and put down, as indeed you may wish to in order to savor the rich stew of ideas.

GRADE: A+
A Mapmaker's Dream : The Meditations of Fra Mauro, Cartographer to the Court of Venice
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    A Mapmaker's Dream : The Meditations of Fra Mauro, Cartographer to the Court of Venice
    James Cowan
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    A Mapmaker's Dream The Meditations of Fra Mauro, Cartographer to the Court of Venice
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      A Mapmaker's Dream The Meditations of Fra Mauro, Cartographer to the Court of Venice
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        Ventanas. (crítica de libros; 16 de abril de 1998)(TT: Windows) (TA: critique of books; April 16, 1998): An article from: Siempre!
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          Ventanas. (crítica de libros; 16 de abril de 1998)(TT: Windows) (TA: critique of books; April 16, 1998): An article from: Siempre!
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          Manufacturer: Edicional Siempre
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          Release Date: 2005-07-28

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          This digital document is an article from Siempre!, published by Edicional Siempre on April 16, 1998. The length of the article is 901 words. The page length shown above is based on a typical 300-word page. The article is delivered in HTML format and is available in your Amazon.com Digital Locker immediately after purchase. You can view it with any web browser.

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          Title: Ventanas. (crítica de libros; 16 de abril de 1998)(TT: Windows) (TA: critique of books; April 16, 1998)
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          Date: April 16, 1998
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            Mapmaker's Dream: the Meditations of Fra Mauro, Cartographer To the Court o f Venice (Uk Edition)
            James Cowan
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            The Prodigal Project Book II: Exodus (Prodigal Project)
            Average customer rating: 3 out of 5 stars
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            Offering hope to countries and individuals, Azul Dante and his Prodigal Project remains a beacon in the swirling maelstrom of uncertainty that threatens to engulf nations, ideologies, and faiths.

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            For some, the End Times are just the beginning.

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            2 out of 5 stars Save your time & energy & just buy the Christ Clone Trilogy.......2006-07-11

            After reading the first book and feeling dissapointed by the thin plot line, lack of dynamic characters, and the overall transparency, I had hoped that book 2 would be more promising. No such luck. Unfortunately, I bought all four of the books right off the bat and have an acute sickness where I feel obliged to finish what I start from beginning to end and this unfortunately includes these four long, drawn out, christ clone trilogy wanna-be-but-falls-way-short books. My overally recommendation is to save yourself the time, energy, and frustration of these 4 books which could be and SHOULD BE summed up in one book of about 400-500 pgs. no more, no less. If you really want a VERY similiar and WAY more exciting version of these books - I strongly urge you to pass these over enroute to the Christ Clone Trilogy which keep you guessing for awhile and are about 1 Million times more intellectually stimulating. A word of caution, however, the down-sides of Christ Clone Trilogy is that it ends far too abruptly after so much build up to the final battle (as stated in Revelations) and becomes over the top preachy in addition to leaving a number of questions still unanswered. It gives the impression that the author just got tired of writing on the topic and looked for a quick way out. However, far preferred over the Prodigal Project Series which unlike the Christ Clone Trilogy will not leave you at the end of each book hungry for more.

            1 out of 5 stars Could Edit Out Entire Book.......2006-04-23

            Let's get it out of the way- I have to force myself to read this novel, the second instalment of Abraham and Hart's Prodigal Project series and I held very little hope that it would improve at all. Not to mention that if his style of writing continues into the remaining five books then this entire series could have been condensed into one single two hundred or so volume.
            The beginning didn't bode well for the rest of the book, nothing more than a rehash of previous events and sermon, which had been repeated unnecessarily more times than I'd like to count in the first two hundred pages of Book One. Fifty pages could be turned into one and his point would still be pushed sufficiently to proceed. The question is, what is the point?
            I stick firmly by my opinion that Abraham and Hart are crazy, Bush loving Republicans- the sort that would have changed `French' fries into `freedom' fries because of their objection to an entire nation (yet I have to wonder, if they hated the French that much then why not just remove the object of objection (the `fry') rather than rename it?). They even have some more than obvious PC attacks on homosexuals, pushing the notion that this is a `two sex world' and one goes with the other- even adding the obligatory new romance which is enough to bug me further.
            The only thing of consequence to happen in the beginning was Thomas Church's miraculous (and thoroughly ridiculous) discovery of his son. This is the only incidence in when I think it would have been appropriate to add a few more pages to a scene.
            Around ninety percent of this book is a reiteration of everything that is said in the instalment, and other than the confirmation that no, Noir cannot be killed, the fiery hail and one hint towards something sinister in Azul, nothing (and I mean nothing) of any consequence happens and this entire book could have been edited out.
            I doubt that I will read the next instalments- even though I could probably skip three and five without missing anything, because this is nothing more than a repetitive, Republican piece of propaganda. I do not recommend it.

            5 out of 5 stars Still Going.......2003-11-03

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            5 out of 5 stars This series keeps getting better!.......2003-08-11

            I've been looking forward to reading this book since GENESIS captured my imagination, and I wasn't disappointed at all. I can't wait for the next book in the series. There are a lot of great scenes, but also a lot of hope and inspiration in these books. I really like them.
            The Prodigal Project Book II: Exodus (Prodigal Project (Paperback))
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              Doctor Who: The Taking of Planet 5 (Doctor Who (BBC Paperback))
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              • Too dull
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              • i REALLY wanted to like this book
              • Typos detract from otherwise interesting story
              • A perfectly adequate Doctor Who book.
              Doctor Who: The Taking of Planet 5 (Doctor Who (BBC Paperback))
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              1 out of 5 stars Too dull.......2001-08-21

              THE TAKING OF PLANET 5 just doesn't feel like a complete work. I must agree with other reviewers who have stated that the authors don't appear to be comfortable working with the ideas and themes developed by other writers. This is unfortunate because almost the entire story is nothing but ideas that have been pulled from previous books (most notably, Lawrence Miles' ALIEN BODIES). The concepts never evolve past the point of being Someone Else's Creation, and the result is that nothing feels as though it has any consequence at all.

              There are a few good ideas contained in the book, but almost every one of them fails to yield anything of further interest after being stretched out to their full potential. I'll use an example from the very beginning of the book: the Museum of Things That Don't Exist. When this is first mentioned in the story, there's a certain air of mystery about the place. It certainly sounds like an idea brimming with creative potential and something that the Doctor Who format could do particularly well, especially in novel form. The problem with it is that when we actually get there, the museum turns out to be dead boring. Instead of surreal displays or books of magical and unexplained happenings we end up with nothing more than reconstructions of a few hoaxes and fictions that would only be significant to someone from Twentieth Century Earth. A nice idea ruined by poor execution, which is indicative of the majority of the flaws present in this book.

              The plot is very complicated and there are several things going on at once. This results in the people involved in the story coming across as rather shallow. There simply isn't room inside the story for all of these characters. This is a pity as there are one or two there who seem like they could have been quite interesting, if only there had been room enough to flesh them out completely.

              There are one or two bright points in the book. The Interludes are very strongly written and effectively convey some of the concepts that the main portion of the book had neglected. The Doctor is characterized well in the portions that he's in; it's a pity that those portions are so few and far between. The book seems far more concerned with relating more pieces of the future war between the Time Lords and the enemy than it does with telling a full story. This wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing except that it takes the Doctor out of the main thrust of the story right from the beginning, and the hints about the War (and the fate of the Celestis) simply aren't interesting enough to sustain the book purely on their own. But these hints and disclosures are all that we have here.

              All in all, the presence of several big concepts and arc-related revelations don't prevent this book from ending up being extremely dull. It's not a poorly written book, just one that feels more like a vessel for bigger things to be put through it, never once standing up and existing on its own merits. It tries to be hard-SF by throwing around a lot of scientific gobbledygook, but it's never quite as clever as it thinks it is.

              4 out of 5 stars Dr Who Meets the Elder Gods (IE: Cuthulu).......2000-06-21

              I really enjoyed this book. It is outstandingly well written, and keeps on the plot-line of the Eight Doctor, expanding the story bit by bit.

              If you've been following the books, this is a wonderful addition to the storyline.

              Also, it is great to see a Crossover story between the Cuthulu mythos and the Dr. Who world.

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              2 out of 5 stars i REALLY wanted to like this book.......2000-04-10

              typically, i am not an avid reader of sci-fi. but since the BBC took the dr. who series back from virgin, the novels have typically been written with a very adult realism and a focus on tight storylines that was missing from many of the virgin books. there were some incredibly unique ideas that bucher-jones and clapman never allowed completely to be realized. their writing style was fast-paced, but many times they substituted huge scientific-sounding words and phrases (some real and some of their own creation) instead of focusing on important visual and conceptual descriptions. the basic plot was engaging and thought provoking, but more than once the action was brought to a screeching halt by some very odd description (compassion smelled musky? what was THAT about...) or an implausible plot turn. it is never fully explained who or what the original elder thing population infiltrated by the time lord soldiers truly is. the reader might assume they are mictlan, but too many aspects of this secret conflict are never clearly explained. And why have they chosen the fictional elder thing form? it is these details that become frustrating because they deserve a much better physical description and plot explanation. the authors have introduced one of the most original concepts of the series. the idea of the tardis as a bio-mechanoid lifeform was one of the most pleasant and exciting surprises of "The Taking of Planet Five". that, and the return of the fendahl, could have made this an incredible story. it is unfortunate that a completely ridiculous conclusion left this reader thinking....WHATEVE.

              3 out of 5 stars Typos detract from otherwise interesting story.......2000-04-08

              The Taking of Planet 5 possesses an intriguing plot - the time-looped planet that holds the Fendahl - but suffers from a number of factors - incredibly convoluted explanations that would require a PhD in quantum theory to understand, flimsy characterisation where the 'bit players' are concerned, and dreadful typesetting. At least the last problem cannot be attributed to the authors!

              As a result of the extensive over-explanation, it's very hard to visualise a lot of what is actually going on. There seems to be a lack of urgency while the tangent rolls off onto yet another huge explanation.

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              3 out of 5 stars A perfectly adequate Doctor Who book........2000-04-07

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              Dark Majesty: The Secret Brotherhood and the Magic of a Thousand Points of Light
              Average customer rating: 2 out of 5 stars
              • Christian slop for the dumbed-down
              • Mr. Marrs continues his tangled webs & challenges to reason
              • Massive Research
              • misconception, ignorance, and lies.
              • Skull & Bones Expose
              Dark Majesty: The Secret Brotherhood and the Magic of a Thousand Points of Light
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              1 out of 5 stars Christian slop for the dumbed-down .......2005-12-12

              I see some have given reviews that Marrs researched his subject area well. What he's done is give some conspiratorial reason for life as we know it. He connects unrelated dots and makes so many egregious errors its not even worth mentioning.

              Because some guy makes some "connections" and offers cockamamie theories disguised as "insight' and "knowledge" doesn't make them true, people. I used to be a Fundie Christian, but I could never quite understand how some supposed intelligent people could believe such utter toxic waste and even more so when less and less evidence produced. The structure of a cult has it that you recruit the brainier types. For some reason they are easier to bamboozle. Intellectual morons are what they're called in some circles. I'm not saying Christians are intelligent (from my experience, quite the opposite, but the leaders are), but those who are "intelligent" are blind, arrogant (usually), make massive conclusions based upon virtually nothing and fit the same pattern as the Christians who destroyed ancient Rome and brought on the Dark Ages. What was rumor and innuendo (usually stemming from paranoia and slop originating from the authors of books like the subject of this review) ends up being cirulated and recirculated to the point that within these circles it becomes some NWO and Luciferian reality. Scary ain't it? Then, they cause wars to take place in far-flung places like Iraq so to bring about the death and chaos and so the Messiah can ride down and impose his version of a dictatorship and meanwhile our "good" Christians get to rule with a iron rod. Sounds like fantasy, right? Not to these psychos. Because they are psychotic in their actions and the delivery system is Christ-insanity. Allow this mental toxic waste to propagate then you got another Dark Ages with added life destroying methods like bio warfare, nuclear weapons and environmental degradation. All for the arrival of the Messiah!

              Anyway, people, this guy, Mr. Marrs, repesents the same forces that destroyed European culture and achievement (thus relagating her to backwater status) for over 1,000 years, commencing with the Dark Ages where all knowledge and old ways were considered evil and heretical. Of the DEVIL! Lucifer, Baal, Satan, Molech, you get the drift.

              I believe some "belief-systems" are toxic waste waiting to destroy in the name of love and grace. Christ-insanity is one such cult gone wild. If it blossoms again be prepared for incessant wars to bring about the Messiah and a earth destroyed for their paranoid and evil delusions. THEY are the EVIL ones folks! The greatest country as yet (eventhough its tarnished now) is probably the USA due to a farreaching and foresight oriented document called "The Constitution". The men that brought it about were mostly Freemasons and Deists. They didn't want the same petty religious squabbles that were happening in Britian between various psychopathic Christian factions to inundate the new America. The Puritans, for example, were persecuted by rival Christian factions and when they obtained power became the persecutors. I've researched how the Christians really acted in ancient Rome. They targetted higher ups (rich, wealthy, senators) to convert and then plotted and succeeded in controlling the Roman state, i.e. Constantine. They used basically the same tactics as early to modern communists. Scheming and doing everything possible to destroy the Roman state so through a chaos scenario they can usurp it. They did more than that. Then they destroyed all the vestiges of the old relgions, banned all freedom of thought, annihilated science, philosophy and other disciplines. Europe didn't slink out of this until the Renaissance. Meanwhile, guys like Marrs would say how the Pope or some other religious leader was evil and of "the Devil" and the cycle would endlessly repeat over and over and over.....until the madness abates with reason and open inquiry without the fear of being put in the Iron Maiden for heretical thoughts. For example, Germany, in the 30 Years War in the early 1600s was turned into a wasteland (1/2 of the population destroyed) due to Marrsesque madness.

              Folks, there is a conspiracy, mostly of very wealthy, high level, types who want to hold onto their shekels to the detriment of all. Basic human pettiness and greed is the most part. They use Democrazy and conflicting factions (religious and ethnic - divide and conquer) to hold basic control and offer the illusion of *voting*. Bearing in mind the sleazebag politicians will do whatever gives them a new car or vacation and knowing *selling out* has become a virtue. They, these guys and politicians, are criminals for the most part destroying the planet, our health, our very existence. However, because of their utter and complete corruption they will go down and no amount of BS democrazy is going to save their sorry asses when all their ill-gotten wealth and property (maybe even *more*) is confiscated. It is another cycle and it will happen sooner than you think. So forget about numbnuts Marrs and his drivel for the slow witted. These a**holes that I described will crash & burn soon enough. This is due to organic historical cycles and a shifting of wealth and power. I can only hope a strong man comes about that makes them pay dearly for their arrogance and greed. Ruthless action is what will come my friends and when it does they won't have any place to hide.

              1 out of 5 stars Mr. Marrs continues his tangled webs & challenges to reason.......2003-06-24

              I have read Mr. Marrs' books, heard him speak, and talked with him personally. This book is simply another in his series. He pulls together unrelated pieces of information, connects dots in convoluted fashion (without substantiation)and--voila!--conspiracy! Having also been on both sides of the fundamentalist/new age debate, I have to say that, if there is a conspiracy anywhere, it is with the fundamentalist/religious right, which I personally observed while in that movement. Nowhere does that exist in the extremely loosely knit new age community--they are simply too diverse, too independent, and too unorganized to fit Mr. Marrs' conspiracies. Further, a check of his references show they are limited, and citations in text are completely lacking. If we are to follow his lead, we can pull Sacajewea from the top of the US Capitol, and pull the Statue of Liberty from New York Harbor. [pp211-212] Mr. Marrs believes they are both statues of the "Goddess of Reason" designed to poison our minds and country! His books are amusing, but please don't take them as factual or reliable. They wouldn't pass in a freshman research course.

              5 out of 5 stars Massive Research.......2003-01-09

              This is an amazing book containing a vast amount of hard to find information. The research was very impressive and the content insightful even for someone well versed in these topics. I am looking forward to seeing this authors other works.

              1 out of 5 stars misconception, ignorance, and lies........2001-05-23

              This book is exemplary of the know nothing fundamentalist zealotry that makes many of the non-religious stay non-religious these days. I am afraid to admit that the author writes with great pseudo-intellectualism and religious paranoia. He writes as if he were an informed authority on religion, occult, and secret societies. Yet hislack of specificity, lack of knowlege, the outrageously ludicrous comparisons and points he makes, all point to the fact that hes not. Mr Mars is very much a common fundamentalist christian writing with little more than common fundamentalist insight. I think that if Mr. Mars has learned only a little more about the history of religion and the occult since publishing, he will undoubtedly regret and perhaps be ashamed of this work. Let me give you some examples of the flaws of logic and shody research one can find in this book.

              When refering to the "thousand points of light" foundation, the author gives reasons why the number one thousand has a special "occult significance." He states that it "mocks" the one thousand year reign of christ but dosent tell us why the name is seen as a mockery. He states that it refers to the "serpent" or "lucifer" which is suposedly equivalent to the 1000 headed Shesha in hindu tradition. Any serious religious or occult scholar has learned that there are many fundamental differances between these three entities, so many in fact that one could write a book on them and I must not delve into that here. (email me for more info) Devout christians rarely do unbiased and in depth research on satan and concept of evil in religion and Mr Marrs is no exception seeing as how he paints every "pagan" or "occult" subject in a sinister light. He does this because he is grossly ignorant about traditions outside christianity and thus paranoid and suspicious of them. He implies that the points of light organization is evil because the greek monster madusa was supposed to have 1000 snakes wreathing from her head. (i think of sex 1000 times a day, but i dont think its related to the points of light foundation or a conspiracy to rule the world) He betrayes a lack of knowlege of classical/biblical language, which is forgivable but the mark of a true biblical scholar. In speaking of the masonic patriarch "hiram abif" he makes the halariously incorrect and insubstantiated statement that the name "Hiram" means High Ram, and thus the "baphomet" revered by some satanic sects. This is flat stupidity. Hiram is not english at all but ancient hebrew. A very apropriate name for a hebrew man in ancient times. The consonants were "mem, yod, resh, he." This name was a hebrew adjective meaning "exaulted." Look it up in a hebrew dictionary. The whole of the book follows the same logic and highly questionable research that these examples illustrate. Let me say that i dont want to sound pompous or self riteous in bringing such critisism to this work. I honestly hope that Mr. Mars has been enlightened since writing this mistake of a book. I think the book does deserve one star because I learned alot about religion and freemasonry not by reading the book in itself, but from trying to do further research to substantiate the claims and points he made. In finding out how the book is 80% rubbish I did learn something. Dont be fooled by it.

              3 out of 5 stars Skull & Bones Expose.......2001-02-02

              What an extremely interesting book. I have read Anthony Sutton's book "America's Secret Establishment" as well as this one. Mr. Marrs takes you to the secret ceremony that George Bush went through, like so many before and since, on the night he was inducted into the Skull & Bones Society. This book will inform you about illumination of the masses by this society. If you find this book hard to believe, do your own research. But use this book as a tool to get you heading in the right direction.

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              1. All the Trouble You Need : A Novel
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              3. Astonishing Splashes of Colour (P.S.)
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              7. Beyond Our Mothers Footsteps
              8. Big City Eyes (Ballantine Reader's Circle)
              9. Buddha Da: A Novel
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