God Bless You, Dr. Kevorkian
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God Bless You, Dr. Kevorkian
Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
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In what began as a series of quirkily characteristic ninety-second interludes for New York's public radio station, Kurt Vonnegut asks, on behalf of us all, the Big Questions. Could death be a quality? A place? Not an ending but an occurrence that changes those to whom it happens?

As a "reporter on the afterlife," Vonnegut bravely allows himself to be strapped to a gurney by his friend Jack Kevorkian and dispatched round-trip to the Pearly Gates. Or at least that's what he claims in the introduction to these thirty-odd comic and irreverent "interviews" with the likes of William Shakespeare, Adolf Hitler, and Clarence Darrow, bringing readers to an entirely new place -- a place to which only Vonnegut could bring us.

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A new work of fiction by the American master Kurt Vonnegut.

Customer Reviews:

4 out of 5 stars And God Bless, You, Mr. Vonnegut.......2007-07-13

A nice pamphlet from Mr. Vonnegut. May it push you towards: BreakfastofChampionsWampetersFomaandGranfallonsCat'sCradeleGodBlessYouMr.RosewaterSlaughterhouse5andPalmSunday

3 out of 5 stars Slight but Fun.......2007-06-10

Fun, clever, quick little read. Doesn't really stand alone. Should be a part of a longer nonfiction work. This and Man Without a Country could have been combined into one book. Vonnegut imagines how 23 dead folks might explain themselves if they were given the chance. Do not buy this. Read it in the bookstore, the library or borrow a friend's copy. The hardback sold for $18 and this paperback can be had for slightly less than ten. This for an 80 page book with wide margins and double spacing by an author who frequently assails the commodification of art. Joke's on us. One last laugh from the king of gallows humor.

5 out of 5 stars God Bless You, Mr. Vonnegut.......2007-04-12

Even a bagatelle from Vonnegut has more zing than most writers achieve. Reading these imaginary excursions to the other side while the news of his death is still in the headlines (4/12/2007) is poignant, but it also has the kind of wry humor Vonnegut could appreciate. And I hope he does.

So it goes.

5 out of 5 stars A Quick and Fun Read.......2007-03-09

Kurt Vonnegut had a recurring segment on public radio which provided the fodder for this engaging short work. In a series of 21 interviews, conducted "from the death chamber in Huntsville" by dying at Dr. Kevorkian's hands only to be revived at the interview's conclusion, Vonnegut maps out a periphery of the humanist ideals. Not merely entertaining quips, but a roadmap for what is right and wrong, and why we humans ought to do the right thing even without Holy Punishment rained down upon us.

He interviews the obligatory villain, Adolf Hitler, who shrugs off accusations that he's the worst person to ever live.

"I paid my dues with everyone else," he said. It is his hope that a modest monument, possibly a stone cross, since he was a Christian, will be erected somewhere in his memory, possibly on the grounds of the United Nations Headquarters in New York. It should be incised, he said, with his name and dates 1889-1945. Underneath should be a two-word sentence in German: "Entschuldigen Sie." Roughly translated into English, this comes out, "I beg your pardon," or "Excuse Me."

He also interviews John Brown, Karla Faye Tucker, Clarence Darrow (of the Scopes Trial, or Monkey Trial, fame), James Earl Ray, Mary Shelly, William Shakespeare, and Salvatore Biagini, a construction worker who rescued his schnauzer from a pitbull.

My favorites included his interview with Isaac Asimov, friend and fellow humanist; Socialist hero and presidential candidate, Eugene Debbs; and Sir Isaac Newton who spent his time interrogating the interviewer on the nature of the blue tube toward the light of the afterlife. In usual rambling style, Vonnegut expounds on life, insanity, and all manor of social justice issues.

It's a fun read, less substantial than other Vonnegut works, but still full of wisdom and meaning.

- CV Rick

4 out of 5 stars Good Book....but too much money for so few pages.......2007-01-16

Many people have done a good job of summing up the plot. The narrator--with the help of doctor Kervorkian--artificially provokes near death experiences so that he may go up to heaven and interview dead historical people. He discusses the Sermon on the Mount with Socialist labour leader Eugene Debs, chats about the hypocrisy of the U.S. founding fathers with abolitionist John Brown, and reminisces with Hitler....among many other famous figures. It's interesting, thoughtful and funny.

That said, it's under 80 pages with very small margins and text that is doublespaced. My guess is you'll finish it under half an hour. I suggest you borrow this one from the local library or buying it used. Half an hour of reading just isn't worth 10 bucks in my opinion.
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          God Bless You, Dr. Kevorkian (SIGNED, LEATHER BOUND COLLECTOR'S EDITION)
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            Kurt Vonnegut
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            Gilding the Lady (Sinclair Family Saga)
            Average customer rating: 4 out of 5 stars
            • Heated romantic suspense
            • blend of romance, mystery, wit, and sensuality
            • The perfect escape . . .
            • 3 1/2 stars: a bit of a dragging start, but then...
            • lame hero
            Gilding the Lady (Sinclair Family Saga)
            Nicole Byrd
            Manufacturer: Berkley
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            Book Description

            When her parents die, Clarissa Fallon goes from affluent young lady to maid. That is, until her brother returns from the high seas and rescues her.

            Now she must re-learn how to be a lady--and the rakish Earl of Whitby is just the one to teach her.

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            "When her parents die, Clarissa Fallon goes from affluent young lady to maid. That is, until her brother returns from the high seas and rescues her. Now she must re-learn how to be a lady--and the rakish Earl of Whitby is just the one to teach her."

            Customer Reviews:

            4 out of 5 stars Heated romantic suspense.......2005-09-08

            This book had everything you need to create a good romance: a dashing hero, a beautiful heroine, a person who always seems to interfere with the hero and heroine, and, most of all...PASSION! I found the characters to be multi-dimensional and the author weaves a mystery into the story without slowing it down or interrupting the romantic flow. The reader will feel the despair, the heartbreak, passion and the joy of Dominic and Clarissa in this very excellent character driven romance. The plot and characters seemed fresh, the pace was quick, and it was a totally engrossing read. Full of enjoyable supporting characters and stories. A very sexy historical romance book.

            Gilding the Lady was an emotional roller coaster, and I felt all the pain and joy they did. I was so engrossed, I read it in a day. A fast paced book with an intricate plot that I cannot help but enjoy. Gilding the Lady has a strong (but not obnoxious) heroine who is in no way ordinary, a back story which is compelling but doesn't get in the way of the love story, and of course a wonderful hero. Both the hero and the heroine have secrets of their own, which are slowly brought to light by the author, like layers being peeled from a (very good) onion....

            5 out of 5 stars blend of romance, mystery, wit, and sensuality.......2005-08-23

            I'm always excited to see a new Nicole Byrd book, but I was especially eager for this one, after meeting Clarissa in the previous book, Vision in Blue.

            In Gilding the Lady, Nicole Byrd takes the long lost sister of the hero of her previous book, who'd ended up in a nasty orphanage and was then sent out to work at a young age--lots of abuse, etc. Her brother finally found her and rescued her in the last book, and now, at 19, she's got to try to re-learn how to be a lady. A reckless earl sees her in a dispute with her governess on the street, and his friend bets him that he can't make her the toast of the ton.

            There's also a murder mystery and the ongoing search for the natural father of the heroine from the previous book & her brother (hero of a yet earlier book).

            It's a really nice series, and by the end of this book, we've picked up several more connections who are begging for their own books.

            The good:
            The mystery. Clarissa and Whitby join forces to discover who murdered the former matron of the foundling home, a murder that implicates Clarissa.
            The humor. A staple of Regency-era romances is the witty dialogue, and Gilding the Lady is no exception.
            The series connections. In contrast to many romance series, characters from previous or future books don't just make token appearances, they're integral to the story. There is also an ongoing series plot that ties the books together.

            The bad:
            While Gilding the Lady does give you enough information that you can read it without having read the other books in the series, you will get more out of it if you've read the others.

            The wonderful:
            Watching Clarissa regain a sense of her own worth, Whitby mature from the heedless, devil-may-care earl into a caring, thoughtful hero. As in all the best love stories, the romance between them is both a cause and a result of their personal growth.

            The verdict:
            Gilding the Lady has Nicole Byrd's trademark blend of romance, mystery, wit, and sensuality. Highly recommended.

            5 out of 5 stars The perfect escape . . ........2005-08-15

            I am so, so glad I didn't listen to the nasty review someone else put up here and just went with my past experience with this author. I've just recently discovered Nicole Byrd and read both WIDOW IN SCARLET and BEAUTY IN BLACK (loved, loved, LOVED them) and then was so happy that a new Byrd was out.
            I was immediately swept up in the action from the first page when Clarissa sees the face in the crowd that has haunted her for years. And Dominic! He was so sexy and tortured--the perfect hero for Clarissa. I really enjoyed the whole "My Fair Lady" theme, too! Now I have to go back and read the rest of Nicole Byrd's backlist. This book really made my day. I couldn't put it down and it gave me several hours of romance and escape.

            4 out of 5 stars 3 1/2 stars: a bit of a dragging start, but then... .......2005-08-09

            My advise is to skim through the first five to six chapters -- they're a bit slow going and repetitive. However once you've breached the sixth chapter mark, "Gilding the Lady" becomes a very enjoyable and fascinating read about a young woman fighting to put all her old fears and insecurities behind her and save herself from an unjust accusation of murder.

            Although Clarissa Fallon was born a gentlewoman, her life has not been an easy one -- growing up in poverty, she was first, sent to an orphanage when her mother died and her elder brother, Matthew, was thought to be dead, and later sold into servitude. Except that Matthew was not dead. And when several years later, Matthew, with the help of his new wife, Gemma, finds her, Clarissa really thought that all her troubles were behind her. Except that Clarissa is finding it to be exceptionally hard going trying to adjust to her new life of luxury, feeling very much a fraud, and fearing that someone will recognise that she was once a servant and make her and Matthew the laughingstocks of the ton.

            And then one day, Clarissa sees the matron of the hellish orphanage that she was sent to in one of the fashionable streets of London. Clarissa confronts her dragon, only to have her run off after a fierce face off. And when later the ex-matron is found murdered, Clarissa finds herself high on the suspect list. But this time, Clarissa need not fear facing the world on her own. For now she has Matthew and Gemma on her side, and unexpectedly the worldly Earl of Whitby, who has decided not only to help Clarissa find her place in Society, but to help her establish her innocence as well...

            Because "Gilding the Lady" is a follow-up to "Vision in Blue" much of the interesting bits of this novel (what goes on in a badly run orphanage, poverty, and the kind of difficult lives that servants lead) was a little stale -- esp if you've just recently finished "Vision in Blue." And if Clarissa had been a different sort of heroine, the first few chapters of the book might have been a tad more engaging. As it was, even though I tried to empathise with her fears and feelings of inadequacy, I did get tired of her self-pity after a bit. Fortunately, this is where the murder inquiry sets in -- the pacing picks up, the storyline livens up and Clarissa matures almost beyond recognition as she discovers something else to focus on aside from all her shortcomings. It is also at this point that the chemistry, hitherto quite a bit absent between our hero & heroine, starts to sizzle. And I'll say this for our stiff and aloof hero, the Earl of Whitby, he does know how to capture a girl's interest -- that scene in the carriage where he kisses Clarissa's wrist was very sensual. The biggest problem I had with "Gilding the Lady" however, was that the subplot dealing with Gabriel Sinclair's (from "Dear Impostor") search for his natural father kept intruding where it really wasn't wanted, and gave this novel an off center feel. I know that this search is what links several of the author's previous novels together, and serves as a set up for her next few books, but I really did think that this subplot intruded and detracted from the overall cohesive feel of "Gilding the Lady."

            Nicole Byrd is an extremely talented author, and I have enjoyed previous novels by her immensely (most notably "Robert's Lady," "Dear Impostor" & "The Beauty in Black") and once Clarissa pulled herself out of her doldrums and started focusing on something else other than her shortcomings, "Gilding the Lady" proved to be a rather good read too. All in all a very good 3 1/2 star read.

            2 out of 5 stars lame hero.......2005-08-08

            This was perhaps the GAY-est hero ever written. Not that there's anything wrong with that. He's written as a Beau Brummell-esque character, a leading arbiter of fashion but in light of all the "intrigue" and "suspense" the author has him dealing with, comes off as slightly ludicrous instead of hot. I mean at one point he actually shivers in dread. That's right: shivers. The actual consummation, when it finally happens, is just gross and seems completely out of character.
            Gilding the Lady
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                Nicole Byrd
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                Deus Irae: A Novel
                Average customer rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars
                • Worst Dick Novel I've Read
                • I love Zelazny, don't like Dick, gonna quit reading Dick now
                • Good Collaboration, a tightly-woven tale.
                • Post-apocalyptic religion
                • What Is Left To Believe
                Deus Irae: A Novel
                Philip K. Dick , and Roger Zelazny
                Manufacturer: Vintage
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                ASIN: 1400030072
                Release Date: 2003-11-11

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                In the years following World War III, a new and powerful faith has arisen from a scorched and poisoned Earth, a faith that embraces the architect of world wide devastation. The Servants of Wrath have deified Carlton Lufteufel and re-christened him the Deus Irae. In the small community of Charlottesville, Utah, Tibor McMasters, born without arms or legs, has, through an array of prostheses, established a far-reaching reputation as an inspired painter. When the new church commissions a grand mural depicting the Deus Irae, it falls upon Tibor to make a treacherous journey to find the man, to find the god, and capture his terrible visage for posterity.

                Customer Reviews:

                1 out of 5 stars Worst Dick Novel I've Read.......2007-09-19

                I have read over a dozen Philip K. Dick books and can say without a doubt this was the worse one I read, and maybe the worst book I have read in a long time. People have claimed that Dick's Vulcan's Hammer is the worst, but this has to be up there. I had enjoyed the posthumous collaboration between Alfred Bester and Roger Zelazny called Psychoshop and thought this would be the same caliber. Nope. This novel was aimless and boring. Yes, boring. I plowed through it hoping it would go over some hump and get good. Never did.

                I would recommend reading just about any Philip K. Dick book over this one. If you need recommendations I'd say go: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, The Man In The High Castle, The Divine Invasion, VALIS, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, Radio Free Albemuth, Scanner Darkly, Now Wait For Last Year, Ubik, Martian Time-Slip, Time Out of Joint, Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said...before even thinking about reading this book.

                Last snub, what's up with the Vintage cover art for this title?

                3 out of 5 stars I love Zelazny, don't like Dick, gonna quit reading Dick now.......2007-07-03

                A disclaimer: Like a previous reviewer, I will read anything Zelazny wrote, because he's a true master. Amber! Lord of Light! Amazing stuff. He died far too young.

                Philip K. Dick, on the other hand, doesn't float my boat. I've read three of his books now, and didn't like any of them. I'm gonna quit. I should have quit before this one.

                Bottom line: If you loved Canticle for Liebowitz and Lord of Light, you'll like this. I loved Lord of Light, but Canticle is as far as I want to go into questioning Christian theology, so this one gets three stars, mainly for Zelazny's influence.

                4 out of 5 stars Good Collaboration, a tightly-woven tale........2006-03-09

                I always wondered how two writers collaborate to write one novel. Does one start and write til he's stuck, then send it over to the other? Or is one responsible for the dialogue, the other plot and exposition? Do they trade chapters back and forth?

                Deus Irae is immediately recognizable Dick. God & theology theme, wacky mutants, and dialogue that cause you think about and examine our basic Christian beliefs. Why not a God of Death and Retribution?

                I can't say I've read any Roger Zelazny, so I don't recognize his style, plotline, or contribution to the book. However, if he was responsible for toning down the paranoia and rambling to which Dick sometimes succumbs, I guess it was a good mix.

                4 out of 5 stars Post-apocalyptic religion.......2004-06-05

                Dick wrote this in collaboration with another sf great, Roger Zelazny, though the end result is not really one of either author's best efforts. In a post-World-War-III wasteland a religion has grown up around the God of Wrath, whose human embodiment is one Carleton Lufteufel, the government official who detonated the doomsday device that contaminated the Earth's atmosphere with radioactivity. Limbless painter Tibor McMaster sets off in his cart on a quest to find Lufteufel to capture the god's true visage in a painting. There's some interesting speculation around the encounter between a vitiated Christianity with this life-negating religion (Deus Irae means "God of wrath") and a somewhat Zen-like spiritual renewal may be found in the novel's conclusion. The religious preoccupation gives the novel interest as a kind of reflection of Dick's other greater novels of the late 60s and 70s, despite the somewhat casual and fragmented history of its composition.

                5 out of 5 stars What Is Left To Believe.......2004-06-01

                This book mines one of the most fertile areas of post-apocalyptic science fiction, the conflict of faith. What do people believe in when it looks like God has turned his back on the world? This book is perhaps the best possible flip side to Walter M. Miller, Jr's "A Canticle for Leibowitz."

                In a world devastated by a war that has evidently been more than nuclear, Tibor McMasters is an artist for the Servants of Wrath, who worship the creator of the bomb. Pete Sands is an acolyte of the waning Christian church. These strange friends wind up on a search for Carleton Leuftufel, the man who ordered the bomb, so that he can be painted and adored as the Deus Irae, the man who remade the world.

                This brief book appears to have been written by Dick from sketches by Zelazny. These two writers, among the most thoughtful in science fiction, have created a forgotten classic of Twentieth Century literature. An acid trip view of a world twisted and distorted, you are left at the end to decipher what it means. How can we believe in a good god in a bad world? But how can we believe in a bad god and survive? What god suffices? Or is that a doomed thought?

                There are no answers. Like "The Matrix" or "Leviathan," we are left with important questions and our own resources. This is hard. Though this is not the greatest philosophical science fiction novel ever written, it's right up there, and it's not to be undertaken lightly.

                Though this book, like most SF from its time, has become dated, it remains eminently readable and beautifully constructed. We can only mourn that these two great minds are gone now, and enjoy this great meeting of their intellects. Highly recommended.

                Problems With Atonement: The Origins Of, And Controversy About, The Atonement Doctrine
                Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
                • Recovering At-oon-ment from the Hands of Scholastics
                • The Book which put Ansalmic Atonement in the Docks
                Problems With Atonement: The Origins Of, And Controversy About, The Atonement Doctrine
                Stephen Finlan
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                5 out of 5 stars Recovering At-oon-ment from the Hands of Scholastics.......2007-09-23


                "Few other doctrines go to the heart of the Christian faith like the Atonement. Congregations sing at the top of their lungs: 'My sin, not in part but the whole, has been nailed to the cross, so I bear it no more, praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul' ! The priestly work of Christ separates Christianity from Judaism and Islam. Not surprisingly, the Cross has become the symbol for our faith (in Atonement)" Dr. Mark Dever, pastor of Capitol Hill Baptist Church, DC



                Atonement in Today's Judaism:
                On Rosh Hashanah, many rabbis struggle to explain to their post modern audiences one of the Bible's most painful tales; Abraham's Sacrifice of his Innocent son. The father of the Jewish people, and Judeo Christian faith, bound his beloved son Isaac placing him an a stone altar, raising a knife struggling to slaughter him since he dreamt the Lord asked him to present Isaac as a sacrifice, a pagan Mid eastern tradition of the time. The Genesis account is a centerpiece of the Jewish New Year celebration, serving to remind Jews that God blesses those who submit to a divine calling without questioning. Abraham is hailed as a hero for yielding to God's heartbreaking demand. "Some find the account terrifying, an evidence that Abraham's faith was blind, of ageing old fanatic. "In a way it's kind of a horror story... In our state of mind, if somebody hears a voice and goes out to sacrifice his son this man has to be put in a mental asylum," debates Rabbi E. Dreyfus of B'nai Yehuda.

                Penal Substitution & Violent Atonement!
                Just recently, in April 2007, Dr. Albert Mohler wrote, "Last week, with the cross and resurrection of Christ prominent in many public conversations, several figures launched direct attacks upon the idea of penal substitution. Most notably, The Rt. Rev. Jeffrey John of the Church of England rejected the doctrine as 'repulsive' and 'insane'. Following in this line, Dr. Giles Fraser, Vicar of Putney, affirmed John's argument. Mark Dever dares to have Slogan as 'Nothing But the Blood,' saying, "More and more evangelicals believe Christ's atoning death is merely a grotesque creation of the medieval imagination. Really? While Dr. Mohler concludes, "The Atonement protects us from our native tendency to replace religion with morality and God's grace with legalism. Apart from Christ's atoning work, we would be forever guilty, ashamed, and condemned before God. But not everyone these days sees it that way."

                A Short History of Atonement:
                Atonement in Orthodoxy, is all about sanctification and transfiguration, humanity becomes 'divine' by participating' in God. In Alexandrine Orthodoxy, where the Epistle to the Hebrews, played a central theological theme, the intercessory character of our Lord (high-priestly office) is transferred to the heavenly condition and work of Christ, where the relation of Christ's work to man's condition is still continued in the heavenly place. The atonement of Christ, initiated our participation in eternal life, by making the Father known to us, John 17:3. In progressive transformation, our unity with the Father was based on John 17:11 "... may we become united in You and You in us. "Thus Your saying will be fulfilled, That they all may be one with Us." The Coptic Liturgy of Saint Cyril.

                Western Christianity Atoning :
                In Late antiquity Roman Catholicity the main atonement models in use as an emerging novel concept were conceived as Christ's work, presented to God as an oblation. While Ransom was universally dominant over this period, with Christ as teacher being taken for granted, and Christ-as-gift popping up occasionally. Anselm, challenging Christus Victor/Ransom-from-Satan drew up a theological version of the Satisfaction thesis (Christ the gift) to replace it. The offense given to God by human disobedience was made up for by Christ's faithful obedience to God. Peter Abelard who objected vigorously to Anselm's reasoning, attempted to reinvigorate the Christ-as-Teacher model, which became "The Imitation of Christ" in thomas Kempis classic.

                Reformers Inherit Anselm:
                From this point on, Western Christianity generally dropped the ransom model and became split between Satisfaction and Moral Exemplar. Anselm's satisfaction thesis was based on the idea of God as a Feudal Lord, acting according to social standards to accept Christ's faithfulness, as a substitution for our disobedience. His ideas were reshaped, as society passed out of feudalism, using a legal paradigm of "Penal Substitution". This added to Satisfaction the idea of Christ suffering for deleting our punishment.
                The Reformers adopted the Penal Substitution theology of their day wholeheartedly. Original Sin was strengthened by them back to the Augustinian view, and predestination teachings were reinstated. Lutheran salvation by 'faith alone' while works were annexed as auxiliary 'sanctification' which became tangible to the salvation process. "Justification' was redefined, to mean a righteous status declared by God that was adverse to our state of sinfulness.

                Finlan's Problems wuith Atonement:
                Dr. Finlan, Problems with Atonement, has three theological milestones, quoted hereunder:
                "Atonement theologies confirm two fundamental and universal instincts about life and divinity: the belief that nothing is free, that there must be give-and-take in the spiritual economy as there is in the material; and secondly, the intuition that ritual establishes order. (pp. 80)
                "The problem is not what all this says about Jesus but what it says about God: if God wants to save, why is such intercession necessary? Why should Jesus' pleading for humanity only be effective after he had been murdered? It does us no good to perceive Jesus as heroic if we are forced to view God as sadistic." (pp. 97)
                "...atonement is interwined with many important and essential Christian teachings such as the compassion of God, the fact of the divine Incarnation, and the certainty of eventual vindication of the just. Many people instinctively fear the loss of these belief if atonement is surrendered." (pp. 116)

                A Jesuit Scholarly Review:
                "By 'Atonement' Finlan means those secondary doctrines or theories that, at their bizarre worst, entail 'God as sacrifice-demander and Jesus as punishment-bearer,' and at their best with their overemphasis on the implications on judicial, cultic, economic, social or other metaphors, manage to veil or even undercut the mystery of God's self communication in Jesus." Robert Daly, S.J.

                Stephen Finlan:
                Dr. Finlan wrote his Dissertation in Pauline Theology, to the University of Durham, UK. His investigation of "The Background and Content of Paul's Cultic Atonement Metaphors," gave him the inspiration to examine the writings of the Church Fathers. He authored "Opinions on Atonement in Christian Thought," a sequel to this original study, and co-authored with Vlad Kharlamov, "Theosis, Deification in Christian Theology."

                Presented to Dr. Hany Mikhail in apprecciation of his book, "Divine Justice, Life not Death, Forgiveness not Retribution, 1997

                The Background And Content Of Paul's Cultic Atonement Metaphors (Academia Biblica (Society of Biblical Literature) (Paper))
                The Atonement: The Origins of the Doctrine in the New Testament

                5 out of 5 stars The Book which put Ansalmic Atonement in the Docks.......2007-09-22


                "If the forensic model of justification argues that through faith we are declared righteous, while in actuality we are not made righteous, this new reading of Luther argues that through faith we participate in the whole Christ, who in his divine person communicates the righteousness of God." Myk Habits, Reforming Theosis



                History of Salvation:
                Salvation was a central theme in the thought, teaching, and writings of the Church Fathers since the apostolic times. We can follow the trail from second Clement, Ignatius of Antioch to the Ephesians, the epistle of Barnabas, and the shepherd of Hermas. While Clement addresses salvation as justification, he also writes on sanctification. Irenaeus on atonement(Adversus Haereses) writes,"God became man, and it was the Lord himself who saved us." Tertulian expounded Irenaeus on 'Atonement by Incarnation' in Adv. Marcionem ii, 27. Clement of Alexandria started its salvific tradition in the work of Christ; Salvation by the example of love in the incarnation and passion (Quis Dives Salvetur). In contra Celsum, Origen initiates the Alexandrine deification as exemplified in Christ's humanity, exploring most issues in present day salvation theology, including the Orthodox deification as the culmination of Salvation. Didaskalex

                Incarnation for Atonement:
                In the closing chapter of his study, Dr. Finlan writes, "Atonement too, was a common category of religious belief. Atonement is not unique in Christianity. It was able to catch on in Christianity because it drew upon a pool of ideas common to the religions of the region... When the incarnation gets attached to old notions of punishment, a collective stain of sin, and God responding to ritual, then the incarnation gets taken over by concepts of atonement." He then concludes,"Neither is it only the incarnation the incarnation and Passion of the cross by which this marvelous exchange has been effected, but also by the entire human life of Christ, most especially by the essentially impassible Word's adoption of human Passion."

                Problems with Atonement:
                It was Didaskalex, my Amazon Friend, who proposed to me reading Stephen's 'Problems with Atonement', before reviewing his other book on Theosis. Stephen Finlan, who looked for Theosis through participation with the divine, has ultimately uncovered what Atonement by the Loving Lord means in the Apostolic Church of the Fathers, thus joining the company of the great Alexandrine Soteriologists. Ansalm's legal satisfaction concept has been now put in the docks of Theological clarifications and amendments.
                In reply to Finlan's own exclamation, that calls for support, pp. 81, "Is my interpretation overly modernizing and negative about atonement?," I say that yours is a revival of the basic concept of atonement by uniting with God in Jesus Christ, atonement by incarnation. Your refreshing study is a compelling classic, that expounded a positive sense of the original docterine At-oon-ment, being one with the Lord.

                Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement

                Options on Atonement in Christian Thought
                One with God: Salvation As Deification and Justification (Unitas Books)

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