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A Flag for Sunrise
Robert Stone
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An emotional, dramatic and philosophical novel about Americans drawn into a small Central American country on the brink of revolution.
Customer Reviews:
deserves to be a classic.......2007-07-26
stone writes a thinking person's adventure in this novel set in central america in the 1970's [80s?]. you can find elements here of Conrad [Heart of Darkness], Hemingway and others as Stone's characters navigate the moral, spiritual, political and physical dilemmas of a third world country on the verge of revolution. he does it all while firmly rooted in the nitty gritty of the physical world with sometimes stunning description. i would guess that stone has traveled extensively in central america given the strength and detail of his scenery.
only a few criticisms here. i found the beginning somewhat slow/opaque as stone establishes his characters & plot in the book's first half. the pace quickens in the second half once he's dispensed with this work. additionally, there are not a lot of sympathetic characters here. that makes stone a realist, which i appreciate, but also makes it a little harder sometimes to empathize. Having said that, by midpoint you do develop empathy for Justin, and to an extent for Pablo and Holliwell, though both the latter are flawed characters.
nonetheless stone is a master, one of the greatest novelists plying his trade today.
One of the best political thrillers.......2006-01-08
The problem with political thrillers is that they often become clliche and predictable. There is often a desire, either by the author or the industry, to paint these as modern westerns with well-defined good guys and bad guys. Rarely do we get a novel of more disturbing complexity which challenges our notions of morality and suggest a social structure which lead to corruption of values and moral virtue. Only the best take this opportunity for developing a sense of noir, protraying the darkness of human ambition and petty venal sins, that is often missed. John Le Carre is a notable exception who has remained dedicated to his genre. Rarely do novels produces the types of characters that strive to overcome those structures or achieve some victory, or reach a pivitol moment of epiphany. Such greats include Conrad's The Secret Agent, or Greene's Quiet American. To these one should add Stone's A Flag for Sunrise. There is genre fiction, and there is fiction that transcends genre and which stands distinctive as a work of literature. This definitely falls in the later category.
A Flag for Sunrise brings us back to the 1970s and 1980s, where America is fighting a war against communism along it's southern periphery, the backyard of Central America. It is a period often forgotten or glossed over by modern Americans who think of this period as that time when Reagan won his war against Communism. Stone brings us back and cuts out a small story within a bigger story- of a pair of missionaries holding out on a small beach in some fictional South American country, as the world around them falls to the chaos of revolution and a coming apocalypse.
One of Stone's strengths is capturing the sense of hollowness of the Post Vietnam Era. This is a time of pessimism, when the potential for evil in foreign policy is very apparent, and where Americans are suffering an identity crisis about their place in the world. This is a powerful theme in Stone's work, seen espeically in The Dog Soldiers, but here it is especially powerful.
This is a thriller with a powerful set of characters: disillusioned American vets from the Vietnam War, an idealistic nun, well intentioned journalists, manipulative revolutionaries, despotic policemen, aging pirates and smugglers, political manipulators, spies and hired guns. These people collide with intense drama and tragedy. At the heart of the story are three characters, a disillusioned veteran of Vietnam, the idealistic nun and a military deserter whose vacuous nature becomes a cause of destruction. They remind us that in the turbulence of political change, individuals exist and struggle to survive in these tidal forces. There is a horror here, of structure and character, of vice and ambition, and of the dark side of the human heart and perhaps those aspects of our humanity that finally may redeem us. What is achieved is a work of art that stands far and above most political fiction you will likely read in a long time.
Highly recommended. This is another story which begs Americans to reconsider the price of empire and one of the landmarks of 20th Century Literature. Dog Soldiers has often been criticially acclaimed, but a Flag for Sunrise is probably Stone's best.
Power, [evil] and self interest........2003-07-28
In its setting and background a Flag for Sunrise rests firmly in Graham Greene and Ernest Hemmingway territory - a fictional Central American country run by a right wing military regime. The cast of characters holds few suprises - the whisky priest, the idealistic nun, the american abroad, the sadistic secret policeman, various members of the world intelligence services.
What struck me about a Flag for Sunrise was its uncomprimisingly dark view of the world and the politics that makes it function. A world where all that is important is power and strength and your ability to harness these forces for your own self interest. A world where morals have no place, in fact a place where morals will get you killed, often slowly and painfully.
Yet somehow the book remains rivetting. You know that it is going to end badly for those characters that you like, at times it is difficult to turn the page, but you do anyhow and what happens is often worse than your darkest imaginings. But it is also honest.
This is the second Robert Stone novel that I have read and I am certain that it will not be the last.
A Third World Apocalypse..........2002-12-23
The incendiary hint of Revolution simmers on the surface of a South American country beset by poverty and the all-consuming appetite of corporate gluttony. The rolling green hills and sparkling beaches of Tecan are perfect for exploitation. The land is already littered with an assortment of "investors" jockeying for inside information. Revolution spells opportunity, out with the old regime, in with the new, and a tidy profit to be made along the way. The only question is whether to "run with the Rabbit or hunt with the Hare?"
Saints and sinners compete in this Third World nightmare, each with a different agenda. It's an ideological train wreck and the ultimate victims are the disenfranchised. The name of the game is greed and the players are the usual: privately owned corporations, interested governments, a militia trained to fight insurrection, various criminals, religious zealots and a panoply of hired spies and assorted operatives. Our personal guide is Frank Holliwell, an American anthropologist with "Company" ties from his days in Vietnam, visiting the region ostensibly to give a lecture. Holliwell becomes one more pawn in a dangerous game with incredibly high stakes.
In the final act, no one is who he seems in this Darwinian struggle for dominance. The common people are disposable, the cause is mutable and the quality of civilization a casualty of events. Enter at your own risk, this is Robert Stone at his best. But know this: you step into chaos in this novel (with no separate chapters) that jolts from one state of anxiety to another, watching over your shoulder at every turn.
My first Stone novel and looking forward to more.......2001-08-29
It may simply be the euphoria after reading a book but then how many books out there can leave one breathless, stunned and "spaced-out" after reading it? I remember nodding in marvel after reading Sebastian Faulks' Birdsong but there are more occassions when I threw them against the wall in exasperation, quite a number of them were award winning books too. I was taking a one week break from work to concentrate on a MBA assignment. During a lunch break, I choose a book which I think would be safe for an hour read and which I can discard safely without feeling a sense of attachment. I choose one with a cover of an uninteresting looking clergyman and you heard of the cliche about not judging a book by its cover, well, the lunch break became an extended break and I just have to finish it. My favourite soccer team lost, the office called with bad news, my ex was her typical unforgiving self when she called, empty stomach beckons but they were minor inconveniences! I have to finish it. This 'It' restores a sense of wonder and love of reading that I thought lost due to too many clever books that impressed judges with its complexity but seems to be devoid of good story-telling skills. Like Joseph Heller's Catch22, this book did not win any of the major awards it was nominated for, doesn't that tell us something? If you look at all the lists published in the Internet, the obsession is with the winners, I would love to see a listing of nominees and let history be the judge.
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Banderas Al Amanecer/a Flag for Sunrise
Robert Stone
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Customer Reviews:
AN OK READ.......2006-06-30
FROM THE BACK COVER:
One Wild Wedding....
Molly Mc Guire struck a bargain with rancher Kane Jackson to help find her missing brother. They would be married in every way - but one! Yet how could she keep her distance from a man whose Cheyenne spirit made her understand what made the West so wild?
The last thing Kane Jackson wanted was a wife - especially one who did what she pleased whenever she pleased! But now he was saddled with a coppery-haired bundle of determination and desire named Molly McGuire, who tempted him in many, many ways...
GOOD - CLEAN - SEXY STORY.......2006-03-20
Oh, yeah! Molly McGuire has come to Texas to wed Kane Jackson and have him help find her brother, Charlie.
Only Kane did not know anything about Molly until his ailing grandfather told him to meet her.
Bennet had searched almost 20 years, looking for his grandson and he finally found him six months ago.
Kane had been rescued by a Cheyenne warrior when he was a child and now was more Indian than a white man. He has a terrible past to live with, having lost his wife, Little Swan and taken to the trail of vengeance.
He has finally agreed to make a marriage of convenience with Molly, whom he calls "Little Bird" until they find her brother.
While his mind denies any interest in marriage or family, his body desires his wife. So he lives in utter conflict of mind and body.
Molly has no such problem. She falls in love with her "husband" and looks forward to sharing his bed. [or wagon as the case may be]grin.
Grandpa Bennet wants Kane to sire an heir for their ranch, and to have a happy family life. Maybe that will make Kane settle down. He thinks Molly is the woman for Kane.
Kane finally shares his secret with Molly of his Cheyenne family.
Wonderful story with plenty of sex within marriage. Molly has a very hopeful attitude toward winning her husband's love.
Great characters - great plot - move well within an emotional field.
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED - Such a wonderful upbeat type of story/
Book Description
One year after the end of the Dominion War, the Romulan Star Empire comes under attack by a mysterious and alarmingly powerful enemy calling itself the Watraii, a species with a long-standing vendetta against the Romulans. Yet though they remain tenuously allied, the Federation, the Romulans, and the Klingons are unready to become embroiled in another sustained conflict, forcing Ambassador Spock, Admiral Uhura, Admiral Chekov, Captain Saavik, and some unexpected allies to defy their governments in order to meet the new threat head-on. But the first blood drawn may prove to be among the dearest of all.
Unknown to the defenders, the secret behind the Watraii's attack is buried in Vulcan's violent ancient past, during the time of Surak himself, when the proto-Romulans -- staunch opponents of Surak's reforms -- were compelled to take their chances among the cold and distant stars. Now Spock must begin the first leg of a long and dangerous road to learn the truth...before his hopes for the future become ashes.
Customer Reviews:
Reasonably well-written, and certainly interesting........2007-10-05
Unfortunately, while the actual writing itself is reasonably well-done, the pacing is a bit off and the plot is a bit disjointed. The attempts to blend the two halves of the story, the flashbacks to Surak's time and the "current" Star Trek story, fail pretty thoroughly. There is very little feel of connection between the two. Further, the authors make use of the very common but no less unacceptable device of writing a story in multiple installments none of which constitute an even marginally complete story in themselves, so the book ends on a cliffhanger. (Two cliffhangers, actually, one for each half of the story.) This was, perhaps, acceptable in 1950s movie serials, but is no way to write a novel.
Good Book but not conistent with Star Trek History.......2006-04-19
It's a great read on it's own. My major nitpick is that the book is not consistant with the established history of the Star Trek Universe. Sarek is alive in the book while in Star Trek: The Next Generation he died in 2368 in the episode Unification of Bendii syndrome.
If you ar elooking for a great read, buy the book. If you are a stickler for internal consistancy with the series, you will be unhappy.
Wow.......2006-01-31
This was easily one of my favorite books. It jumped back & forth between the "past" (in the days of Surak, the father of Vulcan enlightenment).. telling the story of how the Romulans broke away from the Vulcans.. very interesting, if not a little confusing.. and the "present," where a race called the Waatari claim that the Romulans are murderers that kicked them out of planets that supposedly belonged to the Waatari (Romulus & Remus).. and plan on romulan genocide because of it. The federation is torn, because of an uneasy truce with the Romulans and not knowing exactly what happened when the Romulans found their now-homeworlds... the Romulans' history is sketchy and filled with myths, so that not even most Romulans know what happened in their early history. This first book tells the tale of one Vulcan man's journey.. meeting and befriending Surak and eventually being forced off-planet because of the civil wars. At the end of the book he ends up leading this "wagon-train" ship to the stars, full of Vulcan refugees, never to return home again. The "present-day" story involves a few of the original star trek cast: Ambassador Spock, Captain Saavik (Spock's wife now), Admiral Uhura, and Admiral Chekov. These lead a fleet of non-sanctioned Federation ships, a few Klingon, as well as some Vulcan ships all to the Neutral Zone to meet up with the Waatari (as well as the Romulans) to try to find out the truth, in hopefully the most peaceful way.
Good, But Won't Stand On Its Own.......2005-09-29
Kicking off a trilogy of novels, Vulcan's Soul: Exodus documents a new conflict in the post-Dominion War years between the Romulans and a mysterious species called the Watraii. At the same time, it delves into the past to tell about an exodus of Vulcans from the war-torn planet during the time of Surak.
On the whole, the novel was a pleasant diversion, but acted more as a teaser for the next two books telling two separate stories instead of really standing on its own. Right off the top, something felt odd. I couldn't really put my finger on it. It might have been expectations, but then again I can't say that I really had any. All I had known beforehand was that it involved some new race attacking the Romulans, so I was got increasingly confused by the amount of time was spent in Vulcan's past.
It got to the point that it started to overshadow the present day story and of the two, I preferred the more modern story. I started to figure that this Exodus either became the Watraii or the Romulans, although if it were the latter, it wasn't at all as I had imagined or thought had been established about how they left. Something tells me this was some previously unknown and earlier migration of Vulcans into space.
The most developed character ends up being Karatek, the Vulcan scientist in the past who takes in Surak as a guest and ends up getting way more than he bargained for. He hardens up during his ordeal going through the Forge and will only be tested with his new mission. No one else really gets as much attention, although Spock and Saavik are at the center of the 24th century storyline. Other characters from Sherman/Schwartz novels also appear and we get some nice updates about what they're doing. The use of Chekov is dubious. Of the original crew, he was certainly the youngest, but I also wish they'd just let the whole TOS bunch fade away instead of dragging them out and dusting them off for one more adventure. The needless jokes referencing "nuclear wessels" were just groan-inducing.
There are however several little details that do work well, especially the opening setting of a hidden meeting place deep in the Neutral Zone where the super-powers can get together. That is a place that I really hope gets used again in a future novel. The amassing of Saavik's fleet and its confrontation with the Watraii was decent. More about the other Federation starships would be nice. It did seem that several Starfleet vessels were willing to go against orders at the drop of a hat. Rebellion against orders is pretty run-of-the-mill anymore, so maybe it's just as well that they didn't go too indepth about it anyway.
Other things don't work so well. The plot relies on a couple of contrivances that just didn't feel necessary, such as a memorial service being interrupted by a broadcast of a Watraii attack that never really established who sent it or how. I was also a bit bewildered at how Saavik's fleet just happened upon the Watraii fleet in the middle of nowhere. I think a few more scenes, especially in the 24th century storyline, could have avoided those contrivances and only added more weight to the novel.
The book ends on a cliffhanger that didn't ring true. I really couldn't believe that Spock would proclaim someone dead on so little evidence. I really don't get much of a sense of how the Vulcan's Soul trilogy will all play out with Exodus. I hear that this trilogy will also get into the origins of the Remans, but at this point I'm not seeing it (or why it didn't play more into all the Romulan stories post-Nemesis). This is a light and entertaining first entry. Here's hoping the next installment gives us more depth.
Book Description
Following their bestsellers Vulcan's Forge and Vulcan's Heart, Josepha Sherman and Susan Shwartz embark on a new trilogy chronicling the latter-day adventures of one of Star Trek's most beloved characters, shedding new light on his world's shocking history.
One year after the end of the Dominion War, the Romulan Star Empire comes under attack by a mysterious and alarmingly powerful enemy calling itself the Watraii, a species with a long-standing vendetta against the Romulans. Yet though they remain tenuously allied, the Federation, the Romulans and the Klingons are unready to become embroiled in another sustained conflict, forcing Ambassador Spock, Admiral Uhura, Admiral Chekov, Captain Saavik, and some unexpected allies to defy their governments in order to meet the new threat head-on. But the first blood drawn may prove to be among the dearest of all.
Customer Reviews:
Revising History.......2007-01-22
While the book can be quite enjoyable in its own right, the authors don't seem to be familiar with the much better series of books written by Diane Duane. Her history of the Sundering and the creation of the Romulan (Rihannsu) culture is better established in five previous books, and quite frankly makes better sense considering the way the Vulcan people turned out in the canon shows.
Books are never completely canon when the shows and movies can change details at any moment, but the books could at least be a part of the time line. Based on [...] information Chekov would be 132 and Uhura 138 years old in this trilogy. And I've never seen a hint of Saavik being married to Spock in the shows- that is sort of incestuous considering their early history. It seems a little too pat to have some of these details in the book and feels more like fannish wish fulfillment than good story-telling.
The writers should watch the show before writing.......2006-12-08
Major chronology/continuity issues with this one. Dissappointing, as I liked Shwartz & Sherman's other work.
1. Saavik had to wait 75 years to make Captain? Heck, if that were me, I would've resigned long before...
2. Uhura and Chekov are still alive?? Excuse me?
3. Authors treat the Dominion War as if it happened what, a year, after the movies, forgetting there is a 75 year period of time in between.
This novel just doesn't live up to the excellence of the authors' previous work. Star Trek authors should really watch all of the shows before attempting to write anything.
good idea / poor and clumsy style.......2006-02-14
The idea behind this book is quite interesting and could be catchy for many readers. With it's style of 'one chapter in present times, one chapter in the past etc.' it resembles a little "Spock's World", which is a really good book.
BUT...
The authors's style itself is rather clumsy and seems forced.
Some examples:
1) Admiral Chekov? Admiral Uhura?
Using those ST:Classic characters who might still be available, however old they may be, to nourish a story about Vulcans and Romulans is dull at best.
Josepha Sherman and Susan Shwartz are most likely satisfying their own sentimentalities in unnecessarily "reviving" these characters for their book...or is it just a desperate attempt to attract more ST:Classic fans?!
2) Vulcanoids have green blood - common knowledge among Star Trek fans.
Nonetheless we are being informed about this fact almost every other page. Something/one has always a blood-green tone, shines in the brightest blood-green, resembles the green of healthy blood, has a streak of green blood upon his face etc...
After about 50 pages it made me wanna scream: "YES, I GOT IT! PLEASE STOP, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!"
I highly doubt, that Vulcanoids are running around constantly judging the tone of everything green and reminding themselves, and thus also the reader, that THIS is the color of their blood, not red. Fascinating, that these Vulcanoids almost never see any other color worth mentioning in this book, just green.
Did Josepha Sherman and Susan Shwartz try to underline the exoticism/alienism of Vulcanoids this way? If so, it's a primitive and seriously unnerving attempt.
3) Vulcans are a very intelligent, precise species and know how to calculate without a computer. Nothing new!
Nonetheless Josepha Sherman and Susan Shwartz feel the need to remind the reader of this fact almost every other page (again!). Their Vulcans make comments about the PRECISE chances for whatever situation (however ridiculously uncalculable it may be) all the time.
Here just ONE example out of SO MANY: "Wouldn't it be wonderful, if the moment could last?" Saavik asked. "If we could all stay so amazingly unified. Of course," she added, "that is logically not possible." There was less than a .00035563 chance of such an intense feeling of unity lasting any longer...(Spock's thinking)
Where did he get all the necessary data to calculate such an amazingly precise number...for something as variable as humanoid behaviour? And why does he do it every other page, whether it's necessary/useful or not? Is it logical to constantly waste part of your concentration on something absolutely useless (and impossible)? Does that properly support the image of an intelligent and logical man/race?
4) Surprise, surprise - did you know, that Vulcans follow a philosophy that revolves around logic? If not, this book makes sure you will notice and never ever forget it!!!
Perhaps Vulcans (or just the authors?) don't have such good a memory and don't exactly know what logic actually is, cause it seems they have to remind themselves and others of the logic in this and that every now and then. If the situation, action, case has something to do with logic or not is rather irrelevant.
If you're just looking for a story and further background information about Vulcans and Romulans, this book will be quite interesting for you. Should you be the kind who likes good writing too, your money would be wasted.
PS: Please forgive my grammar and spelling, but english is not my mother tongue.
Splendid Star Trek Fiction on Vulcan's past and present.......2005-05-02
Josepha Sherman and Susan Shwartz have crafted one of the finest examples of "Star Trek" fiction that I've come across in "Star Trek Vulcan's Soul Book 1 Exodus", which is a thoroughly engaging look at Vulcan at the time of "The Sundering" coupled with the mysterious appearance of the Watraii, an alien race dedicated to the total destruction of the Romulan Star Empire's homeworlds of Romulus and Remus. I am surprised that Admiral Pavel Chekhov can be as spry as he is, given his advanced age, but nonetheless, I did welcome his appearance as well as Admiral Uhura's, in this well conceived story involving Star Trek: The Original Series characters set a year after the Dominion War. However, the most engaging characters are those from "The Sundering", most notably the engineer Karatek, who eventually becomes a disciple of Surak's, and flees Vulcan in one of the Exodus starships leaving a nuclear war-ravaged planet. The literary quality of the authors' prose is much better than what I have read from virtually most of the recent Star Trek fiction I've come across. I am looking forward to reading the sequel, which will be the second book in a trilogy devoted to Spock and Vulcan's history circa "The Sundering" and its repercussions for the United Federation of Planets, Klingon Empire and especially, Romulan Star Empire.
Illogical.......2005-01-14
Apart from the plot of the book, I'm curious as to how Uhura and Chekhov can still be active Starfleet officers at well over 140 years old. They're only human! Dr. McCoy showed up on Star Trek: The Next Generation in 2363 or so, and he was obviously not in any shape to be on active duty. I find it hard to believe that Uhura and Chekhov are in much better shape, being only a few years younger. Obviously, there would be medical advances in the almost 400 years between now and then, but if medicine has advanced so much that humans are living a couple hundred years, why was Dr. McCoy in such decrepit condition? In "Generations", Picard remarks that there are more days behind him than before him, and I've never heard anything indicating he is over 100. It's nice to have the old characters around, I know, but it just doesn't make sense. Of course, none of the books are "canon", so I suppose that allows for some leeway, but some sort of rationality would be nice.
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Brilliant beyond words.......2007-09-20
Gerald May is brilliant. Full of soul and wisdom. Simply written, and yet, deeply profound and uplifting.
spirituality.......2006-11-04
Simply Sane was a required book for a pastoral integration class. I found its ideas very relevant to my own life and future practice and would recommend it to others in the field.
Be gentle with yourself.......2003-04-23
Most of us are "addicted to perfection". Always trying to become whom we imagine others want us to become. This leads to much anxiety, depression and loneliness.
"To thy own self be true", we have to care and be gentle with our inner being if we want to go out into the world and love and be loved.
Dr. May gives us direction on how to "let go and let be", to get out of our ego, our own way and become the person we were meant to become. At times this might be seen as "selfish" but one has to understand that you can't give to others what you are denying to give yourself, so "charity begins at home".
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