The Water and the Blood: A Novel
Average customer rating: 4 out of 5 stars
  • One of Turner's best works
  • Strong Southern themes
  • the water and the blood
  • Extraordinary!
  • Realistic and scary
The Water and the Blood: A Novel
Nancy E. Turner
Manufacturer: Harper Perennial
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Binding: Paperback

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ASIN: 0060989025
Release Date: 2002-10-01

Book Description

I turned and faced the road we'd come down, my face hard and set. The kids moved on without me. I could still see a slight glow and the murky, gray smoke reaching above the trees, where it spread to the south....

When I thought they were out of earshot, I took a deep breath. "You lied to me," I whispered toward the building, to all the people it represented, to the hours I'd spent on those hard, split-log seats, and to my childish epiphanies born there .... "You lied," I said. "These are my best friends now."

Rare is the gift of a writer who is able to conjure up the voices of very different worlds, to give them heat and power and make them sing. Such is the talent of Nancy E. Turner. Her beloved first novel, These Is My Words, opened readers to the challenges of a woman's life in the nineteenth-century Southwest. Now this extraordinary writer shifts her gaze to a very different world -- East Texas in the years of the Second World War -- and to the life of a young woman named Philadelphia Summers, known against her will as Frosty.

From the novel's harrowing opening scene, Frosty's eyes survey the landscape around her -- white rural America -- with the awestruck clarity of an innocent burned by sin. In her mother and sisters she sees fear and small-mindedness; in the eyes of local boys she sees racial hatred and hunger for war. When that war finally comes, it offers her a chance for escape -to California, and the caring arms of Gordon Benally a Native-American soldier. But when she returns to Texas she must face the rejection of a town still gripped by suspicion -- and confront the memory of the crime that has marked her soul since adolescence.

Propelled by the quiet power of one woman's voice, The Water and the Blood is a moving and unforgettable portrait of an America of haunted women and dangerous fools -- an America at once long perished and with us still.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars One of Turner's best works.......2006-08-02

Growing up among poor, uneducated farmers in Depression-era East Texas, Frosty Summers is no stranger to prejudice against non-whites. Still, she is unprepared for the horror she feels when one of her friends is dared to set fire to a black church, and the guilt she will carry inside herself for years to come because of it.

Quite unexpectedly, Frosty stumbles upon a black congregation at worship, and finds herself true friendships among its members. She begins to understand that people are all human beings, regardless of skin color.

As World War II begins, Frosty joins the war effort in California, where she finds true love...in a young Native American man who has been hurt by white people before.

This is truly one of Turner's best works.

4 out of 5 stars Strong Southern themes.......2006-03-06

This book is certainly different from Turner's tales of Sarah and her quilts! As a daughter of the South, I feel Turner's characterizations of hypocrisy and racism in this Southern gothic tale hit the mark, and she does a good job of building a sense of intrigue as the hunt builds for the church-burners. I recommend this one and passed it on to my reading friends in a departure from the types of stories I generally pass on. This leaves me wondering if I ever got it back....

4 out of 5 stars the water and the blood.......2006-02-02

This novel takes place during world war 11 with women leaving the home to work. This is a period of time that I am not real familiar with and was not aware of the prejudices and narrow beliefs of the average american.
Deals with reglious beliefs,K K Klan hate and a changing world of women moving into the work force and new freedoms for them. My Mother was part of this great social change but I never really thought about the great social changes until I read this book. Worthwhile reading - this story stands with "To Kill a Mockingbird".

5 out of 5 stars Extraordinary!.......2005-03-22

I usually read in the evening to help me fall asleep. I actually lost sleep over this one. The characters were so real they followed me into the next day's mood. The 'loved it' or 'hated it' reviews were telling. Turner let us get to know the characters without having to load us up with description and history. Those who need all sweetness and light and require everything spelled out for them will not like this book, nor will southern Bap-Diss. I will be reading her other works soon.

5 out of 5 stars Realistic and scary.......2004-01-15

Changing points of view give Frosty a first hand say in the story, while other characters are third person. I liked the way the Navajo part of the story is dreamy and full of images. All of it seems like a huge metaphore for the brokenness in some families, where one person is always left behind or left out. Frosty is a sad, angry kid living in a sad, angry family. Yet, in the end the reader knows she's going to be all right in spite of everything, because she sees but doesn't see, looking on the hearts of people instead of their skin color.
Blood & Water (Noble Causes, Vol. 4)
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    Blood & Water (Noble Causes, Vol. 4)
    Jay Faerber , and Fran Bueno
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    ASIN: 1582405360

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    The Noble family is again plagued by scandal when their friend, Krennick, is suspected of murdering a prostitute who was found dressed up like Zephyr Noble. Meanwhile, half-brothers Rusty and Frost find themselves forced to team up on a mission to outer space, and Gaia begins to notice startling changes in her husband, Doc.
    Blood + Water
    Average customer rating: 1 out of 5 stars
    • VERY Good Story, ROTTEN Amazon "information" . . .
    Blood + Water
    Judd Winick
    Manufacturer: Titan Books Ltd
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    Binding: Paperback

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    ASIN: 1840237880

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    1 out of 5 stars VERY Good Story, ROTTEN Amazon "information" . . . .......2006-02-08

    This series was a very good and interesting take on Vampire comics by Judd Winick. I only have two qualms with it, and only one of those is what forced the 1 star rating . . . The first one, is that Winick was reported as saying he wanted to be the First to give vampires an update, or some such, in the Vertigo universe. This totally ignores the Vertigo "Vamps" series, from which only 2 short story arcs (out of a project 5 or 6 I think) were ever released (and only the first of those collected, I think), but were also quite good.

    The big problem, is that this collected edition, now listed by Amazon as out of print, was NEVER RELEASED!!!!!!!!!

    I waited well over a year for the thing after the projected release date . . . waiting and waiting for the release . . . it never was . . . and now they have the nerve to list it as "Out of Print."

    Arghhhhhhhhhh!

    Pretty good story, SOMEONE at Vertigo, PLEASE PRINT IT IN A COLLECTED EDITION LIKE YOU PROMISED!!!!!!!
    Blood and Water #1 of 5 May 2003
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      Blood and Water #1 of 5 May 2003
      Judd Winick
      Manufacturer: DC Vertigo Press
      ProductGroup: Book
      Binding: Comic

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      Blood and Water (DC Comics Vertigo)
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      Judd Winick
      Manufacturer: Vertigo
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      ASIN: 140120175X

      Customer Reviews:

      1 out of 5 stars VERY Good Story, ROTTEN Amazon "information" . . . .......2006-02-08

      This series was a very good and interesting take on Vampire comics by Judd Winick. I only have two qualms with it, and only one of those is what forced the 1 star rating . . . The first one, is that Winick was reported as saying he wanted to be the First to give vampires an update, or some such, in the Vertigo universe. This totally ignores the Vertigo "Vamps" series, from which only 2 short story arcs (out of a project 5 or 6 I think) were ever released (and only the first of those collected, I think), but were also quite good.

      The big problem, is that this collected edition, now listed by Amazon as out of print, was NEVER RELEASED!!!!!!!!!

      I waited well over a year for the thing after the projected release date . . . waiting and waiting for the release . . . it never was . . . and now they have the nerve to list it as "Out of Print."

      Arghhhhhhhhhh!

      Pretty good story, SOMEONE at Vertigo, PLEASE PRINT IT IN A COLLECTED EDITION LIKE YOU PROMISED!!!!!!!
      3 Titles in Cork O'Connor Novels : Boundary Waters - Purgatory Ridge - Blood Hollow
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        3 Titles in Cork O'Connor Novels : Boundary Waters - Purgatory Ridge - Blood Hollow
        William Kent Krueger
        Manufacturer: various
        ProductGroup: Book
        Binding: Mass Market Paperback
        ASIN: B000PEHO8W

        Product Description

        3 massmarket paperback Titles in Cork O'Connor Novels : Boundary Waters - Purgatory Ridge - Blood Hollow

        The Volcano Lover: A Romance
        Average customer rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars
        • Self-Portrait in a Concave Mirror
        • Go slow is worth it.
        • "Good" literature, but boring
        • A Fictional, Historical Flop
        • Disappointed
        The Volcano Lover: A Romance
        Susan Sontag
        Manufacturer: Picador
        ProductGroup: Book
        Binding: Paperback

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        ASIN: 0312420072

        Book Description

        Set in 18th century Naples, based on the lives of Sir William Hamilton, his celebrated wife Emma, and Lord Nelson, and peopled with many of the great figures of the day, this unconventional, bestselling historical romance from the National Book Award-winning author of In America touches on themes of sex and revolution, the fate of nature, art and the collector's obsessions, and, above all, love.

        Customer Reviews:

        3 out of 5 stars Self-Portrait in a Concave Mirror.......2007-07-04

        For readers of Sontag's most celebrated essay collections it was obvious that the most intimate connection of her early writing life was with the ideas of the great European thinkers and film makers (Walter Benjamin, Roland Barthes, Jean Luc Godard). She was more political than the decidedly apolitical Roland Barthes but her essays were never part of a larger political project either perhaps because like Walter Benjamin she wanted to believe but perhaps never really did believe that art and politics really made much of an impression on each other. The only place art and politics did seem to come into contact was when one of those rare individuals who were interested in both tried to understand what the nature of that connection might be. And when one of those rare individuals did try to describe the connection between these two apparently disparate realms what resulted was a melancholy realization that when it came to politics/history art really did not count for much. Only in the essay form itself does it seem that art and politics are mutually dependent realms and that individuals (and not impersonal forces like class or national interest) shape history.

        What I suspect Sontag is doing in The Volcano Lovers is trying to negotiate that connection between art and politics/history in a form other than the essay, but the result is not particularly riveting, or, for that matter, in any way engaging either as a piece of cultural history or as a piece of cultural criticism as each of the characters come across as either curiously self-involved (Goethe, Lord Nelson) or self-detached (Sir William Hamilton). In fact few characters in the history of literature have been as detached from the events of their own life as Sontag's main character, Sir William Hamilton. Self-detachment could potentially make for an interesting topic for a novel but Sontag just doesn't make it interesting enough and most readers, I suspect, will put this novel down before they get very far. What is most disappointing about this novel is that in her essays Sontag is particularly good at giving quick biographical sketches of her favorite thinkers in which she sums up the connection between the life and the body of work, but in this novel it becomes clear from very early on that not one of the characters in The Volcano Lovers are really capable of holding her attention in the way that Walter Benjamin or Roland Barthes held her attention in the essays and so the novel just feels like an exercise, an endurance challenge. This problem is exacerbated by the fact that the first half of the novel is really a long meditation on the nature of collecting and Sontag's sentences sound like essay sentences. Granted Sontag understands the collector's impulse better than anyone (with the possible exception of Benjamin) and while this kind of meditation can be very exciting in a 15 page essay, this kind of meditation just gets tedious in a 400+ page novel. Unless you are a self-detached and sexless collector yourself, Sir William Hamilton just isn't a character you will want to spend 400 pages thinking about. At the end of the novel, when the female characters are finally allowed to speak for themselves, it would seem that (at least one of them) shares this sentiment as well--Sir William Hamilton in their eyes is a tedious bore--but it takes a long, long, long time before she is allowed to say so. For some this payoff might be enough to forgive the tedium of the first half but for me it wasn't.

        The tone of the novel is one of melancholy. And the ultimate revelation, if the tedious accumulation of data that The Volcano Lovers affords can be called a revelation, is that we are all pawns of history but that some of us see this more clearly than others. In Sontag's eyes Goethe and Lord Nelson come across as egotists who see themselves in larger than life terms and next to them we might be more inclined to sympathize with the relatively humble William Hamilton who accepts the relatively small and inconsequential role that history has assigned him. At one time he may have wished for a larger role in history but really its obvious that he's living a life that suits his temperament pefectly. The mystery of the novel for me is whether Sontag's intention in writing it was to demystify the great man theory of history (and art) or to demystify the novel itself. Most novels, or at least most exciting novels, show characters caught up in historical changes and the exictement is following the characters as they negotiate those changes within society and within themselves but here Sontag chooses as her focus a man who because of his elite status is relatively immune from social and psychological change and thus the drama and conflict that usually pervades a novel is for the most part simply absent. Without that drama/conflict of character and context the novel just feels like a spent force. Like Sir William Hamilton this novel is curiously barren. The only thing in the external world that catches Sir William's attention or excites him is the volcano itself which puts all human action into perspective and is thus perhaps a great source of solace for this man who has never assigned much meaning to anything that takes place in the human world or even to his own life. To such a detached person as Sir William no merely historical change can really make that much difference anyway, but the volcano fascinates because of its potential to wipe out everything once and for all. And a death wish is really what seems to be the prime motivator here.

        In short this is a novel about a man who is disappointed in the world and aware of the futility of human passions and as a result cultivates only one pastime: collecting (which is not so much a way of assembling an alternative/ideal world, as Sontag states, but of treating this one as if it were already dead). Most likely Sontag is examining her own life while examining this character but if that is so one wishes this were a more sympathetic self-portrait.

        Note: In her last published essay Sontag wrote about another pair of novels that took place around a volcano: Verne's Journey to the Center of the Earth & Laxness' Under the Glacier. It seems Sontag was examining her own mortality as well as her own fascination with art (and whether art is just some kind of solace for the eternally solitary & melancholy reader/writer). This essay can be found in the Sunday, February 20th 2005 edition of the New York Times.

        5 out of 5 stars Go slow is worth it........2007-05-19

        What a wonderful book, I had never read anything written by the author, so I decided to give it a try and was not disappointed. The first 20 pages I had my doubts as her style was a bit odd as some of the conversations of the characters are mingled with the prose, which on third person describes the surrounding circumstances. However the book takes a rhythm quite unique that takes into account the slow passage of time in Napoli during the XVIII century while simultaneously crafts the peculiarities of each one of the persons involved in the drama.

        Eventhough the books lacks that intensity that sometimes bind the reader to the pages of a novel, you want to stay with it an keep on reading. Its like having a great conversation with someone together with a pleasant cup of coffee in a wonderful setting. You don't want to rush, while you pay attention to everything that is going on around you.

        Besides for those who like to underline pages or makes comments on the side of them, the most likely event is that the book will end severely scratched.

        2 out of 5 stars "Good" literature, but boring.......2005-09-08

        The book is well-written, not a pot-boiler, but it was hard to work up any empathy for any of the main characters. If the author had killed them all in the middle, I couldn't have cared less.

        2 out of 5 stars A Fictional, Historical Flop.......2005-03-13

        A patchwork of history, fiction and feminist commentary, Sontag's novel falls short in virtually every category.

        The title of the book is misleading as well. This was neither the story of a volcano lover nor the narrative of a collector. It was a somewhat fractured portrait of the volcano lover's wives.

        Sontag hasn't done an especially good job with character development either. Farting kings, eccentric aristocrats and bloated women jump from the pages as caricatures rather than fully developed characters.

        Lord Nelson, a principal figure in the book, is never actually named, but simply referred to as "the hero." A device that falls rather flat in what tends to be a rather tedious read.

        As historical fiction, Madison Smartt Bell's Haitian trilogy is far superior to Sontag's novel. And her feminist spin on a bygone era falls considerably short of Michel Faber's "The Crimson Petal and the White."

        The 1,500-page-plus trilogy and 800-page-plus Faber novel by the way are quicker, more compelling reads than Sontag's much shorter, but much more boring and disjointed "romance."

        Punctuation and the lack of quotation marks would be the very least of my concerns about this particular book. After all, if we can get through Ulysses or Finnegan's Wake, Sontag's fiction by comparison would qualify an easy read. No...there's much more missing here than quotation marks.

        1 out of 5 stars Disappointed.......2005-03-11

        I really had a hard time getting through the bizarre, disjointed prologue, but trudged onward because of the good reviews I have read about this novel. However, I soon discovered that the dialogue has no quotation marks - The Kiss of Death as far as I am concerned.
        The Volcano Lover - A Romance
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          The Volcano Lover - A Romance
          Susan Sontag
          Manufacturer: Anchor / Doubleday
          ProductGroup: Book
          Binding: Paperback
          ASIN: B000IXWVCO
          The Volcano Lover : A Romance
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            The Volcano Lover : A Romance

            Manufacturer: The Franklin Library
            ProductGroup: Book
            Binding: Leather Bound
            ASIN: B000GLW57E
            The Volcano Lover- A Romance
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              The Volcano Lover- A Romance
              Susan Sontag
              Manufacturer: Farrar Straus & Giroux
              ProductGroup: Book
              Binding: Paperback
              ASIN: B000OP3S46
              The Volcano Lover. A Romance.
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                The Volcano Lover. A Romance.
                Susan. Sontag
                Manufacturer: THE FRANKLIN PRESS.
                ProductGroup: Book
                Binding: Leather Bound
                ASIN: B000JK01NC
                Volcano Lover: A Romance
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                  Volcano Lover: A Romance
                  Susan Sontag
                  Manufacturer: FARRAR STRAUS AND GIROUX
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                  Binding: Hardcover
                  ASIN: B000R0FY22

                  Deathstalker Honor (Deathstalker)
                  Average customer rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars
                  • The war may be won but this series just keeps getting better
                  • Its starting to get real old
                  • They won the war and lost the peace
                  • The 1st 3 had me addicted so I need #4 for a quick fix.
                  • I found the complete series compelling reading.
                  Deathstalker Honor (Deathstalker)
                  Simon R. Green
                  Manufacturer: Roc
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                  Customer Reviews:

                  5 out of 5 stars The war may be won but this series just keeps getting better.......2005-01-15

                  You might think that, after some 2100 pages, Simon R. Green's Deathstalker series would have begun losing steam. As Deathstalker Honor opens, the rebellion against the Empire is the stuff of history and the war to overthrow Empress Lionstone XIV has been won. Our heroes have done the impossible: slaughtered an amazing array of enemies all over the galaxy, seen the brutal murder of what must be billions of people on planets stretching from the homeworld of Golgotha to the planets on the outer rim, been changed into something more than human by a mysterious alien Maze, and become legendary heroes whose exploits are already shown in holovideos to a fascinated public. Remarkably, however, this series seems to just keep getting better. It turns out that winning the war was the easy part; winning the peace is something else entirely. It's not just a matter of organizing a new government among a group of contentious power players interested only in acquiring power and money for themselves; there's also a little matter concerning several alien races moving in to attack the Empire while it is all but prostrate and vulnerable.

                  The gang's still here, though: Owen Deathstalker, the reluctant warrior who oversaw the defeat of imperial power; Hazel D'Ark, the former clonelegger and extremely successful lady at Owen's side, always ready to spill the blood of the guilty; Jack Random, the legendary rebel leader of old who saw his forgotten dreams of revolutionary success come true after teaming up with the Deathstalker; and Ruby Journey, bounty hunter extraordinaire and Random's right-hand woman of mass death and justice. Even Tobias Moon, the Hadenman who sacrificed everything to free his entombed brethren from their tombs on the Wolfling World, returns for this thrilling ride. These are the heroes who go where they are needed to do the things no one else could possibly do. On Virimonde, the planet which once called Deathstalker lord but has since been all but destroyed by Imperial forces, the notorious Valentine Wolfe, the most-wanted man in the new empire, is up to no good. On Brahmin II, the Hadenmen have imprisoned the human population and begun turning them into augmented men like themselves. On the inhospitable mining planet Loki, old rebels have rebelled anew against a corrupt new government and have made a desperate and wholly unforgivable move to elicit the aid of the rogue AI of Shub, mankind's most dangerous known enemy. And on Lachrymae Christi, a leper planet no one likes to talk about, the Hadenmen have attacked in large numbers for no discernible reason. At home on Golgotha, little has really changed, as the aristocratic families, rebel interests, and generally greedy, power-hungry men jockey for position in a generally ineffective, temporary Parliament. I can tell you that a few scores are settled right here and now.

                  There is a ton of great action in this novel, and there is no shortage of shocking surprises either - some wonderful characters don't survive the events detailed herein. Great and troubling mysteries and questions shout out for answers but are eventually subsumed - for now - by the individual missions involving our heroes. Even with their Maze-given special powers, the likes of Owen Deathstalker continually find themselves facing incredibly horrible odds of survival as they work to clean up some of the mess of an empire in tatters. Shub, the Hadenmen, and supercharged alien insects - any one of these enemies poses a daunting threat to the weakened Empire, and now not just one but all three of them are on their way. An even more frightening and potentially superior enemy exists out beyond the rim, in the Darkvoid where it was thought no form of life could possibly survive.

                  Deathstalker Honor kept my eyes glued to the pages, more anxious than ever to follow the exploits of Deathstalker and his select group of revolutionary allies. Each character is given additional room to grow here, and we begin to see some of what is behind the tough exterior masks they wear. Even as they continue to fear that their Maze-given powers are robbing them of more and more of their humanity, we the reader begin to penetrate their emotional defenses in powerful new ways. We also get a good look at the AI of Shub for the first time and learn just enough to heighten our interest and anxiety over the unknown enemies lying within the eternal darkness of the Darkvoid.

                  A heavy dose of fun, space-opera fighting still provides the humming engine of the storyline, but a new emphasis on the human element makes this the most captivating read of the first four Deathstalker novels. There is also a new and effective twist at the end; unlike its predecessors, this novel ends on a major cliff-hanger that is sure to drive Deathstalker fans in droves to Deathstalker Destiny, the fifth and final book in the life and times of Owen Deathstalker.

                  2 out of 5 stars Its starting to get real old.......2001-01-23

                  I enjoyed the first 2 books in this series, and thought that the 3rd book was readable, but this one, the 4th in the series, is starting to get painful. It seems like the author has just recycled scenes from the first three books. There's very little plot, essentially:

                  Parliament member: There's something evil, hideous and terrible on (fill in planet name here).

                  Owen: OK. Hazel and I will go kill it.

                  Hazel: Yeah, I can't wait to smash something and kill something else and stab and wound and destroy.

                  Then they go. Not much of a plot.

                  Really sloppy, bad writing that could have been trimmed down from 500+ pages to about 200 pages. The characters frequently repeat conversations that they had 20 pages previously.

                  I guess you can tell I'm a little disappointed with this book. I'm giving it two stars instead of one because the action, when it eventually happens, is still pretty entertaining, and the author does have some pretty cool ideas; they're just not carried out very well in this book. My opinion, this book isn't worth reading. If you like the Deathstalker series, go back and reread 1--3.

                  4 out of 5 stars They won the war and lost the peace.......2000-07-19

                  The empress is dead, the war is won, and Owen Deathstalker wants a little peace. Unfortunately, there are about half a dozen major forces, ranging from aliens to corrupt lords, who simply won't let peace reign. So the war continues, as Owen Deathstalker tries to settle the universe once and for all. The series continues its winding way through its abundance of aliens and other threats, seemingly getting no closer to finishing, despite the fact that there have been almost 2,000 pages so far. I'm still enjoying the books, as I space them out to about one a month, and use them to wipe my palate clean between more serious reading. The fourth in the series is still great escapist fun, and I'm willing to go on to the fifth Deathstalker novel(and last, or so we've been promised) in the series. There are some minor attempts to discuss the nature of humanity and some moral quandaries, but all these are papered over rapidly with more blood and violence. You want serious moral discussions, go read Orson Scott Card. You want shoot-em-up space opera, read Simon Green.

                  4 out of 5 stars The 1st 3 had me addicted so I need #4 for a quick fix........2000-04-29

                  The first three books of the Deathstalker Saga, while a little "loose" in the writing, presented some interesting characters whose exploits are followed in this the 4th of 5 books in the series. In book 4 Green handles the question of what happens to our heroes now that the war is over and the Empire has to reqbuild. The resulting political conflicts are a nice touch and give the book a little more depth than some of the previous war/violence plot lines.

                  However it feels as though Green has written himself into a corner with the Madness Maze characters. Often it seems as though they've become the "Swiss-army tool" of conflict resolution. One can only read about incredible odds and circumstances being overcome by these "greater-than-human" characters so often before it becomes old hat. While some near death situations are thrown in to give the reader the possibility of losing a main character, I wasn't fooled into thinking they wouldn't come out on top. Just a little too neat.

                  But, of course, I'll buy book 5 and read it because I need my fix.

                  5 out of 5 stars I found the complete series compelling reading........1999-08-14

                  I was introduced to Owen Deathstalker and his... associates by a friend.That was six months ago and since then I have read every instalment,of Simon R.Green's thrilling series,at least five times.The fourth title in the series,"Deastalker:Honour",was the only book I read for about three weeks.I read it perhaps four times in those three weeks during coffee breaks and lunch times and I can safely say that I have a problem with this fantastic series. Thank you...Simon R.Green!!!
                  Charnel House (Deathstalker Honor, Episode 1)
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                          5 out of 5 stars brilliant.......2007-07-12

                          Excellent adaptation, lots of action and adventure.
                          The art work on the cover is tremendous. It is very original and much more detailed than most cover's. No credit for the artist? Who is it?
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                                  Harmony of the Four Gospels, A,: The New International Version
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                                  • Great tool for a study of the Gospels!
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                                  Orville E. Daniel
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                                  Release Date: 1996-05-01

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                                  One of the easiest-to-use parallel text harmonies of the Gospels now has an easier-to-read four-column type design.

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                                  5 out of 5 stars Absolutely essential.......2007-06-04

                                  I was looking for a harmony of the gospel accounts and this was recommended to me. What an AMAZING effort Daniel has put forth. I call it the "golden thread" but its more of a bold-font that connects and weaves the verses together. This interweaving is done very insightfully and is most noticeable when all 4 accounts tell the same story, but use different or enhanced definitions as in, for example, the transfiguration. Very respectable work. This has helped me and some of my friends SO much. A MUST HAVE TO ANY WHO ONLY COLLECT QUALITY CHRISTIAN LITERATURE!!!!

                                  5 out of 5 stars Harmonious.......2006-11-06

                                  Even a student of the Gospels already quite familiar with the details of the life of Christ, will find that the parallel format in chronological order provides a new clarity and richness to the flow of the life and ministry of Christ. While any Gospel harmony is an essential bible study tool, this version has the added benefit of a single bold print path that helps the student tread more easily through the four narratives.

                                  5 out of 5 stars You need this book.......2005-04-03

                                  Think you know the Gospels? You don't know the Gospels at all until you read this book over and over and over.

                                  Each event of all the four Gospels is printed side-by-side in columns with the continuity of the narratives printed in bold type so that the whole story comes alive, giving the complete narrative from beginning to end as it unfolds.

                                  I have owned this book for over 12 years and I'm still rereading it all the time. It never gets old. It's great for devotionals, for study or for leisure reading.

                                  5 out of 5 stars Great tool for a study of the Gospels!.......2002-12-29

                                  This is a wonderful tool when studying the Gospel's account of the life of Christ. The author (or should I say editor/compiler?) arranges the texts in harmony, but also includes approximate dates of when the events took place. Some are critical of this approach, wondering how Mr. Daniel came up with the method of dating the events. Mr. Daniel asserts that the method is by no means difinitive. However, by following the feasts and seasons mentioned in the Gospel texts, he does leave us with useful benchmarks as to when these events took place. There are also useful comments about events like the cleansing of the temple. Were there two such events or only one? Mr. Daniel begs the question, then gives his view in the footnotes. This is a great book to use in a long Bible study on the life of Christ - with the emphasis on long. Our care group is currently working our way through the book . . . it's taken us a year and a half, and we're just now half way through! Take your time . . . learn all you can about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!

                                  5 out of 5 stars A Practical Addition to Any Scholar's Library.......2001-07-21

                                  I used this book during our study of the book of Matthew. Since it is helpful to read the other gospels in order to maximize understanding, the format of this book was perfect. The gospels are printed side-by-side whenever they cover the same illustration so the scholar can make comparisons, achieve clarity, and notice key repetitions. One very useful aspect is that the book has a running story in which the scripture is highlighted, regardless of which gospel, so that the reader following the highlighted text can read the full story of the ministry of Jesus with the maximum amount of detail and with improved chronology.
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